Brushed Metal for H300 - Background problem

[Multiplex]

The theme file has

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backdrop: /.rockbox/backdrops/brushedmetal.bmp

but the file in the zip is called

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bmbd.bmp

Also no background colour is specified, this may not be an issue but when the background failed to load I was left with black on black... good job for the highlight bar!

Very nice theme
I'm beginning to appreciate the H300 again after I got a C250 (cheap, and a cheap set of N/C headphones) for travelling and ended up using it most of the time, but the screen really is too small ...

Edit: I would fix and upload but I'm not registered on the Wiki

[GodEater]

Then register ?

[ZincAlloy]

odd, I thought I updated most of my themes in september... I remember I fixed this some time ago. gonna reupload...

Then register ?

I think one shouldn't fix other peoples themes if they are still being maintained. The original author will possibly reintroduce old bugs in updated versions.

[AlexP]

I think one shouldn't fix other peoples themes if they are still being maintained. The original author will possibly reintroduce old bugs in updated versions.

Presumably since you they are on the wiki you have released them with a permissive licence?  One may not know that the original author is maintaining, and the licence allows just that sort of fixing.

[ZincAlloy]

I don't think the license allows to replace the original work.

[Llorean]

If it's CC by SA and posted on the wiki, it can most certainly be replaced.

Since CC by SA allows modification, and replacing it is a form of modification, that's more or less all there is to it. This doesn't take into account whether or not one *should* replace another person's work, but simply whether they can.

[karashata]

A good idea might be to have a bug-fix for an appropriately licensed theme posted in the same section with a different file name (so as not to overwrite the original) and a different download link alongside the link to the original, that way the original is still available.

If the theme explicitly states the original author is no longer maintaining the theme, however, I would think it acceptable to overwrite the original theme and the download link with the bug-fix...

[AlexP]

If the theme explicitly states the original author is no longer maintaining the theme, however, I would think it acceptable to overwrite the original theme and the download link with the bug-fix...

I doubt many people that stop maintaining themes will take the time to edit the themes to state that.

As a note, I wasn't commenting on the rights or wrongs, just pointing out that at least a small point of the licence is to allow other people to update (for example) in the event that the original author no longer is.

[karashata]

Well, that is true...  I've stopped maintaining some of my older themes and bothered to explicitly state such, but then again I'm still around making newer themes anyway...

[soap]

A good idea might be to have a bug-fix for an appropriately licensed theme posted in the same section with a different file name (so as not to overwrite the original) and a different download link alongside the link to the original, that way the original is still available.

If the theme explicitly states the original author is no longer maintaining the theme, however, I would think it acceptable to overwrite the original theme and the download link with the bug-fix...

I think it was I who added to the WPS galleries "Please honour the original author's intent and don't upload a "fix" which changes features or behavior. If you wish to modify a theme in this manner rerelease it under a new name. " when the graveyards were split.
If it is felt such a request is not enough, or that some "courtesies" for the author should be requested, perhaps this should be discussed.  That said, I do believe modification ("replacement") is obviously allowed by the CC license, and the wiki can clearly be considered a crude CVS.

[ZincAlloy]

If it's CC by SA and posted on the wiki, it can most certainly be replaced.

Since CC by SA allows modification, and replacing it is a form of modification, that's more or less all there is to it. This doesn't take into account whether or not one *should* replace another person's work, but simply whether they can.

It allows distribution of modified works. But does it also allow modification of the original?

[gevaerts]

It allows distribution of modified works. But does it also allow modification of the original?

Define "modification of the original". If you distinguish "modified works" and "modified original", I have no idea what that means.

[Multiplex]

Then register ?

I think one shouldn't fix other peoples themes

For what it's worth, my thinking was;
A) there is a note asking not to register if you're not going to contribute, I didn't think that a fix to a single WPS counted as a contribution
B) I believed that ZincAlloy was still around (correctly) so would welcome a report with the relevant information so it could be fixed. and possibly any related WPSs, I toyed with sending a PM to report it but PMs don't seem to be the norm round here
C) if I got no response I probably would register and post a fix but as an addition to the original I think

But the debate is useful - I did fix one other H300 WPS a while ago but there was no licensing withthe original so obviously I couldn't attribute a license so I guess it's in the graveyard now...

[Llorean]

A) there is a note asking not to register if you're not going to contribute, I didn't think that a fix to a single WPS counted as a contribution

Where is there any limit on what counts as a contribution?

It allows distribution of modified works. But does it also allow modification of the original?

You have the original. The copy on the wiki is a copy of the original you've distributed.

People have the right to edit the wiki and remove your copy. (As can be demonstrated in the vast modifications to the page removing broken themes, rearranging it, etc, but this is also just innate in it being a wiki and the rights Rockbox has granted users of their wiki to modify any page of it freely)
People have the right to make their own modified copy. (CC by SA)
People have the right to upload their modified copy. (CC by SA)
People have the right to name their modified copy whatever they want. (CC by SA)

When you combine all these rights, you get a clear right to replace your copy on the wiki with their own modified copy. It may not be pretty to you, but they absolutely have this right.

[karashata]

Much as one might have the right, I'd hope in the case of modifications to the theme (rather than just bug-fixes to make it work properly), one would have the courtesy to leave the original where it is and post it separately, even if they upload it with the same name.  That being said, if someone did upload a modified theme and replace the original, the original author could still repost the original with a link to the older version stored on the wiki and move the modified version to a separate section...