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Offline darkarn

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Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« on: September 13, 2008, 03:53:20 PM »
Did I miss something out when installing RockBox? Is there any additional files that I need to add into my player?

Is there any way to convert the fonts used by Iriver firmware into one that RockBox can use?

I tried using the Iriver fonts as its own. It shrunk all letters greatly and turned all my Japanese characters into squares. What gives?

(Changed thread title as its focus has been changed)

Thanks!
« Last Edit: September 14, 2008, 12:01:33 PM by darkarn »
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 03:56:01 PM »
You're probably using a font that doesn't have Japanese characters.  Try unifont or another that you know does Japanese. 
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Offline darkarn

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2008, 02:52:29 AM »
I used unifont and Japanese characters are showing up. The problem is, the fonts are a little too big... Is there a smaller version of it?
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Offline pixelma

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2008, 03:52:37 AM »
The UnicodeFonts page in the wiki gives an overview over fonts supporting additional character sets. Recently the fonts were renamed in a "fontsize-fontname" style and so you might want to try out "13-Fixed" or "15-Adobe-Helvetica", both supporting Japanese and smaller than "16-GNU-Unifont".
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Offline markun

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2008, 04:08:26 AM »
Quote from: pixelma on September 14, 2008, 03:52:37 AM
The UnicodeFonts page in the wiki gives an overview over fonts supporting additional character sets. Recently the fonts were renamed in a "fontsize-fontname" style and so you might want to try out "13-Fixed" or "15-Adobe-Helvetica", both supporting Japanese and smaller than "16-GNU-Unifont".

Mind you that 15-Adobe-Helvetica has no Kanji support. Other fonts with Kanji support are 14-Rockbox-Mix and the Sazanami-Mincho fonts.
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Offline darkarn

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2008, 04:47:20 AM »
Thanks for the heads up on the UnicodeFonts page, but problem is, these fonts made the matter worse as my WPS sometimes does not show the name of the next song to be played.

Is there any way to convert the fonts used by Iriver firmware into one that RockBox can use?

EDIT: I tried using the Iriver fonts as its own. It shrunk all letters greatly and turned all my Japanese characters into squares. What gives?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2008, 05:07:08 AM by darkarn »
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Offline BdN3504

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2008, 05:00:57 AM »
I also am encountering difficulties when trying to display various characters. I just downloaded the latest fontpack and chose the gnu unifont. Now in the menu, everything is displayed correctly, but in the wps "è" for example is simply left out. ("frère" reads "frre" in the wps). This needs to be fixed somehow... Shall i file a bug report?
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: Why do Japanese characters appear as squares?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2008, 09:35:52 AM »
Quote from: BdN3504 on September 14, 2008, 05:00:57 AM
Now in the menu, everything is displayed correctly, but in the wps "è" for example is simply left out. ("frère" reads "frre" in the wps). This needs to be fixed somehow... Shall i file a bug report?
No, not until this is clearly a bug: the wps takes the data to be displayed from the files metadata (id3 on mp3, vorbis comments for ogg, etc.). Especially id3 can be problematic here as old versions don't include an encoding (id3v1 tags don't tell about their encoding, and it could be any encoding around). Please check your codepage setting and the encoding of your tags -- I'm quite confident that this is simply caused by a wrong codepage setting.
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Offline BdN3504

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2008, 01:23:02 PM »
You're right, but it's still not working correctly.
When i use utf-8 as default codepage (i thought unifont includes all fonts) i get the omissions. Using "Central European" only works for "é"; "è" for example displays as something completely different (a c with lines above and underneath it). I use the godfather to rename my files and i use it on every single file. And within godfather i always check that ID3v1 and ID3v2.3 are present, so where is the problem?


Thank you. Using the default codepage proposed in the manual (Latin1 ISO-8859-1) solves my issue. Now back to the original topic (sorry for the interruption).

You may also try using a different codepage (Japanese SJIS), codepage setting can be found via Main Menu -> Settings -> General Settings -> Display -> Default Codepage
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Offline darkarn

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2008, 03:51:15 PM »
Thanks! That kind of solved my problems! Apparently, once you do that, all Unicode characters can appear normally unless the chosen font is smaller than 13...

Anyway, has anyone tried to convert Iriver firmware's fonts to RockBox-compatible fonts? I still prefer Iriver firmware's fonts...
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2008, 11:31:15 PM »
There are some instructions here about how to convert fonts to Rockbox's format.
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Offline darkarn

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2008, 04:27:42 AM »
Yeah, I saw them just now... So if I do not want to change anything to the font and just want to convert them into RockBox-compatible fonts, what command should I use?

How do I measure the size of a font anyway?

EDIT: I tried... Didnt worked; seems to me that Iriver has encrypted the file or something...
« Last Edit: September 16, 2008, 01:00:37 PM by darkarn »
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2008, 01:39:57 PM »
I don't know anything about the fonts they use.  FontForge seems to be the most powerful tool on that page, so I would try to use that to convert the font to .bdf format and then use the convbdf tool to convert that into a Rockbox font.
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Offline Multiplex

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2008, 07:58:04 AM »
Quote from: darkarn on September 16, 2008, 04:27:42 AM
seems to me that Iriver has encrypted the file or something...
Where are you getting this 'file' from?
Are you extracting it from the original firmware? (I haven't checked but I assume that there are tools to re-skin the original firmware so logically they must be able to 'import' other fonts)
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Offline darkarn

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Re: Converting Iriver FW Fonts into RockBox-Compatible Fonts...
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 10:28:30 AM »
@Multiplex: Yep, got it from the original firmware...

@Chronon: I cant open the file... Received two messages...
1. Bad Magic Number: This does not appear to be a Windows FNT for FON file
2. Could'nt Open Font: File is not in known format (or is so badly corrupted as to be unreadable)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2008, 10:47:44 AM by darkarn »
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