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Offline Llorean

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2008, 12:30:34 PM »
Be aware that one of the goals of Rockbox is to keep the binary small as well. If people want to replace the logo with a full screen one, a larger buffer will have to be reserved for that. Plus the new code makes it bigger as well. Not to mention it's basically become "add an option for some people to slow down bootup." If it was going to be displayed *after* the boot, and possibly lock the keypad, one could just ask for the enabling of the autoplaying plugin (autorock if I recall) and then someone could make a "Display an image and lock the keys" plugin, and people could then arrange for that to be the one that automatically runs for them on boot.

This would not only meet the needs of "display a logo after boot" but also require no new buffer.

But this thread is about the "boot screen", not what happens post-boot.
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Offline Angelfire

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 01:24:51 PM »
Hey I totally appreciate the efforts made to keep things running at optimum performance.  I have stated several times that I personally do not dream of this option being implemented.  I am a happy bunny with things just the way they are. 8)

However you are being just a tad too dismissive of a reasonable request, just because it is not something you desire.  I am merely seeking to restore a little balance to this debate.  :)

This thread is about where ever the intellectual flow takes us, after all exploring alternatives is surely the underlying philosophy of hacking, do it differently, better, faster, more elegantly.  Do try to be a little less blinkered, you are missing all the beautiful scenery.  ;)

Angelfire
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Offline Llorean

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 01:39:01 PM »
This forum is for ideas people have for features they'd like to see worked on and possibly included.

If there are obstacles to their inclusion, should I not bring them up so that people are aware, or should I be silent and let people get excited, and possibly even spend their time writing a patch only to find out later that these obstacles exist and that either their work was wasted, or they have a brand new pile of work to overcome them because they hadn't planned the code around such obstacles?

It seems to me full disclosure is best in such a matter.

I not only mentioned the obstacles, but mentioned an alternative path of approach that will meet the feature expectations you at least have while bypassing the aforementioned obstacles. I consider this rather helpful since it's actually a means for solving the problem...
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Offline robin0800

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 02:39:53 AM »

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It might deter theft, especially if password protected or write protected.  After all most chavs and neds are hardly Mensa candidates, so would not be able to remove a unique identifying start-up/boot/splash screen.  As most stuff these numpties steal is sold on, they are going to have some hard explaining to do, when the buyer switches the unit on and it says " This Sansa e280 belongs to Mary Jane, 25 Rosebush Avenue, Posh Town, Herts etc...  Also useful if they are apprehended by the police while still in possession of said swag!



I'm pretty sure that it would be no good for security unless you could also disable the dual boot and the usb connection.
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Offline Zardoz

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 03:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Angelfire on August 21, 2008, 11:54:28 AM
It might deter theft, especially if password protected or write protected.  After all most chavs and neds are hardly Mensa candidates, so would not be able to remove a unique identifying start-up/boot/splash screen.  As most stuff these numpties steal is sold on, they are going to have some hard explaining to do, when the buyer switches the unit on and it says " This Sansa e280 belongs to Mary Jane, 25 Rosebush Avenue, Posh Town, Herts etc...  Also useful if they are apprehended by the police while still in possession of said swag!
Angelfire

Chavs and neds are pretty resourceful. I think the implication that these people are less than smart is a little suspect  :D

I'd also like an easily configurable splash but given all the drawbacks, the compilable boot bmp or logoswapper options are just fine.
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Offline TexasRockbox

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 08:33:31 PM »
Personally, I'd like a way to get rid of that pesky "apple" on ipods.  ;)
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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2008, 10:53:04 PM »
Quote from: TexasRockbox on August 22, 2008, 08:33:31 PM
Personally, I'd like a way to get rid of that pesky "apple" on ipods.  ;)
I recall talking to linuxstb about just that about a year ago.  Search the IRC logs if you are serious.
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:W7DRrA2KXgoJ:www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20070218+apple.png+site:www.rockbox.org/irc/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
is the conversation I was thinking about - no info on how linuxstb extracted the image, much less how you could modify the flash of you dared - oh well.
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Offline TexasRockbox

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2008, 12:35:02 PM »
That is kind of cool.  I wonder if that apple logo has some sort of built in delay timer.  Would be nice to decrease boot time.
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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2008, 09:11:59 AM »
would it be possible to remove the "SanDisk" on startup of my e260R? ???
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Offline GodEater

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2008, 10:01:49 AM »
Yes, but worth it? No.
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Offline MajiKool Dragonâ„¢

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2008, 04:37:37 PM »
please tell me how... i dont like it... well i mean i dont mind it but id rather not have.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: a customizable start-up/boot screen
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2008, 04:58:21 PM »
You'd need to code a replacement in-ROM bootloader to replace the existing Sandisk one and cover all the hardware initialization appropriately. Also, you would lose recovery mode if you did this.
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