Video 30G with 80GB HD

[lostcause]

Hi peeps, I've just got a video 30GB and replaced the damaged HD with a 80GB and new backplate. Works OK but needs rockboxing
Can you tell me which version I should go for?
I guess it's the 30GB one......

Thanks for such top banana software

[LambdaCalculus]

Yes, keep using the 30GB build.

An explanation:

The 30GB iPod video has 32MB of RAM. the 60/80GB videos have 64MB. Thus, using the 60/80GB build on your iPod would cause problems.

[lostcause]

Hey, thanks for the rapid response mate, that makes a lot of sense now.. it has difficulty waking up sometimes and I expect that may have something to do with it 
The 30G RockBox is is then,
Thanks again
Lee

[themaiday]

I also considering to upgrade my 5G 30GB with a 80GB HDD, and asked ukipodrepairs about the hardware compatibility concerning the larger rear case for 8mm drives. They told me the following:

the rear case/60gb battery will fit a 30gb but you need the head phone jack as well AND not all 30gb logic boards can be upgraded to a 60/80gb hard drive. Some late boards allow it but most dont accept the bigger drive

Is the statement true? How to find out my logic board version?

[GodEater]

Sounds like utter rubbish to me - I've never heard of a an upgrade like that not working "due to the logic board not recognising the new drive".

If you want to stick with the same back plate as the 30GB has - you WILL need a single platter (5mm thick) Hard drive for your upgrade, which will limit your options - but if you can find the back plate from a 60 or an 80, you can use the dual platters (8mm thick) too.

[themaiday]

The rear case is not that pricey (http://cgi.ebay.de/NEW-IPOD-80GB-5th-Gen-VIDEO-CHROME-REAR-CASE-SPARE_W0QQitemZ140246385989QQihZ004QQcategoryZ48680QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem), but I just heard the same story about the logic board from someone else.
Until now, I have not found someone who got exactly that working.
Upgrading from 60/80GB shouldn't be the problem..


New battery and a new, bigger HDD for less than an used 5.5G sounds too nice

[LambdaCalculus]

GodEater was correct in saying that the logic board incompatibility story is utter rubbish. Most DAPs don't care if you replace the hard drive in them at all, so long as there's enough space on it for a firmware/system partition.

[Chronon]

True, some users have used the CF mod with 5g iPods.  That seems to thoroughly discredit this business about "not recognizing the new drive".

[themaiday]

Did they upgrade from 5G or 5.5G?

[Chronon]

Well, I partially inferred this from this statement by Tarkan:

iPod 5g or 5.5g with certain cards throws up a PANIC ATA -1 error, the current build works ok on CF cards like the Sandisk Extreme III 16Gb but gives the error when used on the A-Data Speedy 32Gb.

From http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14524.msg129043#msg129043

Users have also upgraded 5g iPods to use larger HDs.  We have a wiki page here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement

I am not aware of any such problems with different capacity hard drives being rejected.   As far as I know, one only has to know what connector the drive uses (ZIF 40, 50 pin, etc.)  and the dimensions.

[themaiday]

OK, thanks, I think, I will try it.
Will post my experiences ASAP :>

[lostcause]

Just a quick update after much playing about...
I tried 3 different 30G logic boards (all good) with an 80GB HD and only one actually works 100% of the time. The other two just hang at the boot up with the dim apple logo lurking in the background.
Don't ask me why... but in practice there are issues.

TTFN

[Chronon]

lostcause, thanks for the information about this.  Can you not boot into Disk Mode on all of them?  When you say only one works 100% of the time does this mean that the others work intermittently?  If you can figure out specific conditions that lead this not to work then I think this information should be included on the HardDriveReplacement page.

[themaiday]

Another opinion:

The 2nd version of the 5th gen models are a 5.5 version which is shown at the bottom of the 'about'menu. Also the model serial numbers finish in either V9M OR V9K depending on the colour. these models can be upgraded from 30gb to 60/80gb.

[lostcause]

Hi, sorry for not getting back sooner.... been fixing another iPod
Anyway....
The one that boots with an 80GB HD does not have the above suffix or any indication of being 5.5.
The other two will boot as normal with 30GB HD's but as soon as you pop the 80GB in .... HANG!
No diskmode either although you can go into diagnostics and run smart data etc with no issues..
So there you go... Why? I have no idea! All I know is that I now have an 80GB Rockboxed super iPod playing FLAC heaven.
Thanks for the brilliant work guys, you totally rock.