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My opinions on release 3.0

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Llorean:
The whole point of "release" versions is that we can say "here is a copy of the code, in a known state, that should work reasonably well if you don't wish to simply download current development builds."

It also takes pressure *off* the developers in terms of the current development builds, because if something breaks there's always the release version for users to make use of until it's fixed.

Currently people don't seem to be in the clear that when using "current builds" they're testers, more than users, as it's an actively developed piece of code, and they're getting the most recent, and not always stable, developments.

Bugs in 3.0 are okay if they're documented, and if they do not prevent normal use of the player. Depending on the OF's USB can be documented, and it certainly doesn't prevent use of the player.

Zardoz:
Thanks for the explanation.  :)

(Something I often wondered - is there a 'repository' of all rockbox builds/revisions somewhere?)

I've always understood that I'm using untested (and free) software and think there should be NOO pressure on developers to do jot if they don't wanna! But would it be feasible to fix revisions/builds known to be 'least buggy' on the repository rather than strive for a 'release'?

Llorean:
Builds are only kept around for one month, but an entire revision history of the entire project is kept so it's possible at any time to re-create any historical build.

More or less, though, the idea of "taking a reasonably working build and patching it up" is the idea we're going to be following for this release. Specifically playback seems to have settled down to a reasonable state, so we're hoping the "reasonably working build" will be "Rockbox as it is when the time comes for the feature freeze" but if it's gotten bad again by that point, we'll consider builds from a slightly earlier time period.

Zardoz:
I guess that's exactly what you described a release as, and that takes some work and collating of benches, feedback, realtime data, code etc (ok now I understand it's a big undertaking. I just don't know why you guys and girls don't do less - this is FREE!! But I understand the feeling of doing a good job and so on.) Playback has been completely flawless for me since I started using the [more-evil-than-microsoft] ipod 80GB with rockbox. Only issues I had (and I risk deletion here) were with playlists, making and saving large playlists, displaying them etc

I love rockbox and couldn't care for release.
keep the faith.
Z

Llorean:
There were some issues with playback occasionally seemingly randomly going out of order, and that was one of the two big showstoppers we decided needed to be addressed before 3.0. It got addressed, and so did the other one (which was a similar significant playback issue) and that's why we're going ahead with it now.

There's still quite a few bugs here and there (possibly even a lot) but we feel that we can write up a "Known Issues" and release with them, so that there's a 3.0 version for people to fall back on, rather than never having a stable-ish version.

In fact the current plan is to designate a release every 3 months, if at all possible.

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