Upcoming release 3.0

[Llorean]

As many of you may know, at the recent Developer's Conference we decided to make a strong push to finally get a release version 3.0 of Rockbox out the door.

To this end, we will probably be making many tough decisions about whether or not some players are at a level of working functionality good enough to consider a "Release" version, and whether or not some features are reliable enough to be included in the version. These decisions will be decided by the developers, and will not be subject to voting. What I'm asking for here is merely any opinions: Do you, as the users, have any strong opinions on what players that you have personally used have significant problems big enough that you personally would not be comfortable with a build of Rockbox having a 3.0 release for it.

Here are some specific things to be aware of: This is NOT for highlighting bugs you think need to be fixed before the release. The release is going to happen. Any bug you mention here, you should assume it will not be fixed by the release, and be pointing it out because you personally think it's major enough to prevent a release for the player you own. The bug must occur in the current build and have a flyspray number.

When responding to this post, list the players you think are unsuitable for release, and the specific flyspray number for the bug. Do not bother describing the bug, if the flyspray description in insufficient add a comment there.

Also, the same applies to RBUtil: We would like to have a release version of this to go with the release of the software. In the case of it, list flyspray numbers of significant problems you feel should prevent it from already being considered a release version. That means major bugs folks.

Also, we are aware that accessibility features in RBUtil are not up to par, and wish to apologize but it's unlikely there will be any drastic improvement in the GUI version before the release in terms of the accessibility of RBUtil itself (voice /talk generation, on the other hand is something we want badly to work).

Please, JUST follow the directions in the original post. "Features not done yet" are an entirely different topic, I ONLY asked for BUGS WITH FLYSPRAY ENTRIES. I'm trying to gather very specific information here, not general opinions about the release.

Please keep this thread on topic.
Thank you for your time.

[ThaCrip]

just thought i would post this here to as it's a update on this thread pretty much... http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2008-08/0026.shtml .

but basically on Aug 15th they said this...

"We hope to have a release version 3.0 out within a couple (as in two)
weeks. If you have any specific questions relating to the release,
please reply to this thread. At the moment we're still discussing one or
two targets but, generally, nearly all of the targets that have builds
on the daily build page should be included in this release."

[saanaito]

This bug stands out rather heavily to me.

FS# 7967

[ThaCrip]

more info... http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2008-08/0032.shtml

[ThaCrip]

any updates on the v3.0 release?

early September release or does it look like a late Sep release? (originally was supposed to be late Aug, right?)

[Llorean]

No, the freeze was supposed to end at the end of August. The freeze ending is not the same thing as it being released. Please, just have some patience, we'll announce anything we decide needs announcing.

[ThaCrip]

ok my bad... when the feature freeze was mid Aug i thought a late Aug or early Sep was the release of v3.0 but now i understand.

so basically it's just bug fixes from here on out until it's released then... but it's cool, cause i can wait. as i would rather wait a little longer for a quality release then have them release it to early and have glitches etc in it.

but i got a quick question if you have some time... i assume it would be better to clean install v3.0 (basically delete the entire .rockbox folder and recreate it from the v3.0 build) (once it's out) than to just overwrite the current builds like we currently do when going from daily update to daily update?

p.s. now that i know that ill make a guess and say the early half of October (maybe late October max)

[Llorean]

There's no reason you must do a clean install, but if files have been renamed or anything, a clean install will help avoid clutter or useless duplicates.

[ThaCrip]

ok thanks for clearing that up now... so in other words i dont have to as it's not necessary but for good measure it's probably not a bad idea

[Llorean]

Well, for example, with the recent renaming of all the fonts you'll have an awful lot of duplicate fonts sticking around if you don't. BUT those duplicate fonts will be useful until all the themes are updated with the modern font names.

[gevaerts]

I uploaded test builds from the release branch to http://files.hostname.be/3.0RC/
Note that this is not the actual release, but it should be close to it. If you encounter serious problems with them, please let us know.

[LambdaCalculus]

The connection times out whenever I try to access it. I was going to test the 3.0 RC on a few targets to make sure everything was working, but may have to roll some of my own builds to do that now.

[AlexP]

Works for me...

[yapper]

and me

[gevaerts]

New builds uploaded, still to http://files.hostname.be/3.0RC/

There are also simulator builds now.