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Offline nicke2323

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 05:44:54 AM »
Quote from: gevaerts on June 04, 2008, 04:51:29 PM

The problem can be fixed by using an svn bootloader. Once a new bootloader is released it will work (I don't know when that will be though)

Thanks! I got the Ipod. Are there any developers working on a new bootloader that will work with the 1.3 firmware?
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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 06:39:57 AM »
The current bootloader in SVN does work with firmware version 1.3, so no-one needs to work on it in that sense

Quote from: gevaerts on June 04, 2008, 04:51:29 PM
The problem can be fixed by using an svn bootloader.

You can feed the bootloader you build from current SVN to ipodpatcher manually to install on your ipod (I don't have an ipod myself, so can't tell you how).  To make it easier, a new version of ipodpatcher with the new bootloader built in needs to be released - this requires someone with the know-how to check it out first, then give the go ahead.
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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2008, 07:17:38 AM »
I intend to push for a new round of bootloaders for all targets at devcon. It's more or less trivial for the iPods (easy to test, safe to test, etc) but much more difficult for some other targets (H100/H300 for example require hardware to recover if the bootloader is bad) but I'd like to see all of them working the same way (not showing all that debug text, unless the user presses a button to ask for it, for example).

So, probably at worst case, you'll have to wait until the end of the month for an iPodPatcher to include it. At best case, well, whenever someone compiles bootloaders for all iPods, merges them in, and talks to the right person to get it uploaded. Preferably after at least having someone test each one to make sure it boots.

Or, as BigBambi said, compile one yourself. Doing so is fairly easy (doesn't require any actual programming knowledge) and using SVN bootloaders for iPods is quite safe. If it doesn't work out, you can always just downgrade safely back down to the official currently provided one.
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Offline cool_walking_

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2008, 07:36:21 AM »
What's all this then? I have a 5G iPod with firmware 1.3 and Rockbox works fine  ???

There was also a thread I replied to (which I can't seem to find now) where someone updated to 1.3 over the top of an existing Rockbox install and simply reinstalled the Rockbox bootloader to have Rockbox working again.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2008, 07:42:25 AM »
I dunno. I don't remember any specific fix to this, or even anyone verifying 1.3 was a problem. I was just speaking to new bootloader availability. There have been some changes semi-recently that will basically affect all bootloaders for all (or nearly all) targets. Nothing really functional though, just aesthetic for most of them. Most functional changes are a bit older, but some still haven't been rolled out yet (most notably for the H300 I think).
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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 07:46:17 AM »
Quote from: cool_walking_ on June 06, 2008, 07:36:21 AM
What's all this then? I have a 5G iPod with firmware 1.3 and Rockbox works fine  ???

There was also a thread I replied to (which I can't seem to find now) where someone updated to 1.3 over the top of an existing Rockbox install and simply reinstalled the Rockbox bootloader to have Rockbox working again.

As Llorean, I was going on someone saying earlier that a current SVN bootloader fixes the problem (implying that the current ipodpatcher bootloaders have a problem), and commenting on how to use a SVN bootloader.  I don't actually know if this is the case :)
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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2008, 09:12:34 AM »
I found that thread I was talking about:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14208.0
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Offline nicke2323

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2008, 04:36:01 PM »
Quote from: cool_walking_ on June 06, 2008, 07:36:21 AM
What's all this then? I have a 5G iPod with firmware 1.3 and Rockbox works fine  ???

There was also a thread I replied to (which I can't seem to find now) where someone updated to 1.3 over the top of an existing Rockbox install and simply reinstalled the Rockbox bootloader to have Rockbox working again.

I finally found the time to sit down and try installing Rockbox on my new iPod Video with firmware 1.3. Result? It worked immediately, even with the standard bootloader installed with ipodpatcher.

God I love this program - a huge thanks to all devs involved! Enough praise now, time to download some nice themes ...  ;D
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Offline R32man

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2008, 02:36:18 AM »
well you must have a special 80Gb ipod, because I tried it again this morning and I got the same error message. Downloaded everything again and still no luck
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2008, 02:48:02 AM »
gevaerts seems to think that an SVN bootloader would help.  Have you tried that?
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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 04:55:27 AM »
ok I need help now, how do I find this!!

I downloaded a file

rockbox-ipodvideo64mb

Is That it?
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Help! Can't Install after Firmware 1.3 update by Apple
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2008, 09:40:15 PM »
You need to download the source tree and build the bootloader from that.  Check out the SimpleGuideToCompiling page in the wiki for an overview of the process.  Note that in the "Configuring Build" section you should enter B instead of N (as should be clear when you run the configure script.

Or... as Llorean said, wait until Ipodpatcher includes this version (possibly near the end of the month).
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