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study mode: what is it for? how does it work?
surfer:
I do not find anything on study mode in the manual.
What is it for and how does it work?
MarcGuay:
The manual doen't always get the attention it deserves... Here's the patch:
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6188
Oppaunke:
Even searching the pdf it doesn't bring up a single hit entering keyword "study". So please don't tell a tale >:(
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6188 only seems to mention sth. about a track lock, not even for all players, I suppose. Is that REALLY a "major" change??? I don't think so. Instead of implementing a function to prevent track skip you really should try to make the intentional track skip work. It does that only each first time; after that one has to be very, very patient (>10secs), which is unacceptable.
AlexP:
--- Quote from: Oppaunke on May 19, 2008, 10:28:31 AM ---Even searching the pdf it doesn't bring up a single hit entering keyword "study". So please don't tell a tale >:(
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Excuse me? MarcGuay very clearly said that it wasn't in the manual, so of course you can't find it by searching the manual. Before you accuse someone of lying, make sure you know what you are talking about.
--- Quote from: Oppaunke on May 19, 2008, 10:28:31 AM ---http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6188 only seems to mention sth. about a track lock, not even for all players, I suppose. Is that REALLY a "major" change??? I don't think so. Instead of implementing a function to prevent track skip you really should try to make the intentional track skip work. It does that only each first time; after that one has to be very, very patient (>10secs), which is unacceptable.
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You don't get to decide what developers work on. Everyone contributes in their spare time. One particular developer wanted to implement this study mode (I agree study mode is not a very good name), and so did. Nor do you get to define major changes - this is new functionality that to some people may be very welcome (personally I am not bothered), and so qualifies to be publicised.
For me normal track skipping works fine. Are you using the very latest version to check? Is the problem is still there in the very newest build? If so, have you opened a bug report with a full a clear recipe for reproduction? Developers cannot fix problems they don't know about.
--- Quote from: Oppaunke on May 19, 2008, 10:28:31 AM ---which is unacceptable.
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You are welcome to a full refund. Seriously, people do this for FREE as VOLUNTEERS. Please have a look at your attitude. If it is that unacceptable, then fix it yourself (Rockbox is open source) or stop using Rockbox. You are free to do as you wish, we are not forcing you to use it.
Oppaunke:
--- Quote from: BigBambi on May 19, 2008, 11:04:30 AM ---MarcGuay very clearly said that it wasn't in the manual, ...
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No, he didn't. He just mentioned the manual wouldn't get enough attention - and I suggested he meant the original poster. So, I didn't accuse anybody of anything, right?!
--- Quote from: BigBambi on May 19, 2008, 11:04:30 AM ---You don't get to decide what developers work on.
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I never implied to want to have anything to decide here ;-) Can't you distinguish that from a SUGGESTION?
--- Quote from: BigBambi on May 19, 2008, 11:04:30 AM ---Everyone contributes in their spare time.
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I'm aware of that, but am I forbidden to state any comments, because of this?
--- Quote from: BigBambi on May 19, 2008, 11:04:30 AM ---For me normal track skipping works fine. Are you using the very latest version to check? Is the problem is still there in the very newest build? If so, have you opened a bug report with a full a clear recipe for reproduction? Developers cannot fix problems they don't know about.
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So you are lucky and have a more powerful CPU or more RAM in your player. I use an iPod nano and it doesn't work fine at all, and it never did. And yes, I use a recent build (17553). The problem is bad with .mpc, worse with .mp3 and worst with .ogg files. 1-3 Tracks skip fine, but skipping let's say 5 tracks forth or (worse) back is killing anyone's patience (in my opinion / in my case). Since I believe to have read about skipping issues, I assumed the problem is already known and I thought: 'how couldn't it be'? I also suppose most coders do actually USE rockbox themselves, so I can't imagine they wouldn't notice such obvious issues.
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