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Offline jaylee

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 09:35:40 AM »
I've got a sa9400/00(4GB version), there's a pp5022c in it. it seems not all sa9200 equipped with pp5024
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2010, 09:46:20 AM »
If there's a different CPU, it may need another port developed for it.

If none of the hardware is too drastically different from the SA9200, the existing port just *may* work, but I absolutely cannot guarantee that.

If you're daring enough, have a go at opening your SA9400 and looking at the innards. Scans of the chips and compenents are always good.
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2010, 04:04:02 PM »
Quote from: LambdaCalculus379 on October 12, 2010, 08:38:35 AM
Strife89: I think you may have to update the cabbiev2 version for the GoGear SA9200 to use all of the new WPS tags.

I'll work on it eventually. >.<
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2010, 09:40:13 AM »
Take your time. :)
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Offline jaylee

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2010, 08:20:44 AM »
Quote from: jaylee on October 12, 2010, 09:35:40 AM
I've got a sa9400/00(4GB version), there's a pp5022c in it. it seems not all sa9200 equipped with pp5024
::)I was wrong, there's a pp5024 in my sa9400. I've uploaded some photos of the pcb, link:
http://ifile.it/pljq69y/sa9400.zip
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Offline toffe

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2010, 04:05:55 PM »
Looking at the photos, the 9400 is a 9200 with 4gb memory.
The boards are the same , there is just one more memory on the 9400.
So Rockbox should be working like on the 9200
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 08:51:39 AM »
jaylee, try building the SA9200 port and running it on your SA9400. If it works, we'll revise the port name to "GoGear SA9x00 series" instead of just "GoGear SA9200".
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Offline b0hoon

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 09:59:08 AM »
I've seen the SA9100 somewhere too (1GB). Here: http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews156585.html
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Offline toffe

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 10:47:54 AM »
Post the picture of the board of the sa9100 :)
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Offline b0hoon

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 03:03:33 PM »
The problem is obvious - i don't have one. I've tried to buy it on a local "ebay thing", but i've missed it. Maybe in the future, but i'm 99 percent sure that it's the same mainboard, only with different flash (size) and there is no need to post the picture. :)
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2010, 03:06:57 PM »
b0hoon: Confirmed, straight from Philips: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SA9100/05&scy=gb&slg=en

So that means that technically, we basically can use Rockbox on the entire SA9x00 lineup.
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Offline jaylee

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2010, 09:11:07 AM »
I've tried, current SA9200 port works well on my SA9400.
I've seen some SA9210/SA9410 (sa9200 or sa9400+FM radio), but I didn't purchase any. They may be out of stock now.
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2010, 09:15:49 AM »
Thanks for that bit of information. I've seen some SA9210 units on occasion when I browse eBay, but never thought of buying one. If I see another one again, I'll buy it and pop it open to see what the FM radio hardware is.

The SA9x00 series works well enough now that we should be able to start working in an install process into Rockbox Utility for it.
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Offline b0hoon

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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2010, 02:58:37 PM »
Quote from: LambdaCalculus379 on October 18, 2010, 03:06:57 PM
b0hoon: Confirmed, straight from Philips: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SA9100/05&scy=gb&slg=en

So that means that technically, we basically can use Rockbox on the entire SA9x00 lineup.

Well, a bit off-topic but i'm wondering about the names of the other Gogear series and i think it is messy. For example: we have the Gogear 1630. But it can be without the radio, so there are models: 1420, 1620, 1820 (second number is the size of the drive). Models with the radio have 3 instead of 2 on the third position, so we have: 1430 (may not exist), 1630, 1830 (may not exist).  There is also 1635, but closely unknown. The Gogear HDD6330 can be without the radio too (HDD6320). So instead of the text on the main page "Philips GoGear HDD1600, HDD1800, HDD6300 and SA9200" should be something like "Philips GoGear HDD1000 series,  Gogear HDD6300 series and Gogear SA9000 series" (IMO). Not to mention that the Wiki page is in a mess.
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Re: Philips Gogear SA9200
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2010, 08:44:23 AM »
Here are the last few obstacles in our way before the port can even be considered promoted from "Unusable" status:

  • Add in missing artwork for plugins that don't have artwork for the 128x160 screen resolution
  • Enable plugins
  • Find out if there is another way of getting the bootloader installed; the instructions on the wiki can be rather daunting for users, and may also pose a problem when we need to install with Rockbox Utility
  • Add installation support into Rockbox Utility

Since the current installation method requires one to put the SA9x00 into recovery mode first, then follow a good number of steps, this should be priority one.
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