How can I make the OF the primary boot?(In other words load first)

[Felliph3]

I want to turn on my Sansa250 using the regular OF by just pressing power instead of having to hold left. That way when I want to use Rockbox I can just hold left. So how do I go about doing that? Thank you.

[saratoga]

Check and see if theres an a modified bootloader for your player in the "unsupported builds" subforum.  If not, you'll need to modify the bootloader yourself.

[soap]

This question is asked simply out of curiosity.
What is it that you prefer about the original Sansa firmware?

[zajacattack]

More specifically, see http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9792.0
That should do what you want.

[Felliph3]

More specifically, see http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9792.0
That should do what you want.

Thanks! That solved my problem.

This question is asked simply out of curiosity.
What is it that you prefer about the original Sansa firmware?

I love Rockbox and the OF. They both have severe pros and cons but in the end, OF seems to have the edge.

Rockbox has HORRIBLE menu navigation.

I mean, when you press the power button twice on the OF no matter what screen youre in that will take you to the "now playing" screen. Very useful to go there quick to lower the volume or see the track info.... On Rockbox you pause the song if you press it twice. How about when you want to go to your songs list, it shows it form the beggining, the OF automatically highlights the song youre playing. Also I have all the vids in there that rockbox wont play unless i put em all in again and i dont feel like doing that. Also the recording feature on rockbox sucks, on the OF you just press the record button on the side and it records and you can pause or stop and it asks if you want to save. On rockbox you have to go through your files to find the recordings and sometimes you go into record mode by mistake and you dont want it to save it. Rockbox doesnt ask if you want to save.

I do like the fact that rockbox plays pretty much any song though, even the ones  that arent playable in the OF because i dont have track info put in.
One day I will compile a through list of bad things about Rockbox.

[Felliph3]

Weird, i cant use rockbox when i press left or just turn it on regular.  

[Chronon]

I just want to be clear on your complaints.  It sounds like you like the OF because pressing a given button twice takes you to the playing screen.  But you don't like it that Rockbox will take you there in one keypress?  I.e. pressing play/pause once takes you to the WPS, a second press pauses it.

[MarcGuay]

Weird, i cant use rockbox when i press left or just turn it on regular.  

Welcome to the world of unsupported code.  Go complain to the author of the reverse bootloader.

One day I will compile a through list of bad things about Rockbox.

If you bothered to read the manual that list would be shortened dramatically, I'm sure.

[Febs]

I mean, when you press the power button twice on the OF no matter what screen youre in that will take you to the "now playing" screen. Very useful to go there quick to lower the volume or see the track info.... On Rockbox you pause the song if you press it twice.

Chronon already addressed this one.

How about when you want to go to your songs list, it shows it form the beggining, the OF automatically highlights the song youre playing.

Read the section of the manual relating to the "Follow playlist" setting?

Also the recording feature on rockbox sucks, on the OF you just press the record button on the side and it records and you can pause or stop and it asks if you want to save. On rockbox you have to go through your files to find the recordings and sometimes you go into record mode by mistake and you dont want it to save it. Rockbox doesnt ask if you want to save.

The OF's method sounds like a good way to inadvertently lose a recording.  There is no way I would want that for Rockbox.  It takes all of about 5 seconds to delete a recording if you decide you don't want it.

[Felliph3]

I figured out why Rockbox wouldnt load. You hold the middle button(select) instead of left. Haha

I just want to be clear on your complaints.  It sounds like you like the OF because pressing a given button twice takes you to the playing screen.  But you don't like it that Rockbox will take you there in one keypress?  I.e. pressing play/pause once takes you to the WPS, a second press pauses it.

Ohhh so thats how you do it eh? I didnt know if you pressed play it went back to the now playing screen. Cool. This makes things a ton better.

How about when you want to go to your songs list, it shows it form the beggining, the OF automatically highlights the song youre playing.

Read the section of the manual relating to the "Follow playlist" setting?

I tried that and all it does is highlights a song that i choose from the FILES, it doesnt highlight the one currently playing.

Also the recording feature on rockbox sucks, on the OF you just press the record button on the side and it records and you can pause or stop and it asks if you want to save. On rockbox you have to go through your files to find the recordings and sometimes you go into record mode by mistake and you dont want it to save it. Rockbox doesnt ask if you want to save.

The OF's method sounds like a good way to inadvertently lose a recording.  There is no way I would want that for Rockbox.  It takes all of about 5 seconds to delete a recording if you decide you don't want it.

The OF works fine, I just sort of learned how to play with the recording on Rockbox. So confusing, the rec button starts a new file, play starts recording,then its like how so i save, its confusing. I like how the OF starts recording when you press REC no matter where you are in the menus and when you want to stop just press select and it pauses and if you scroll down 1 you can stop and it asks if you want to save.

I kind of hate how when you skip the same song plays twice, i dont understand why it does that.

[Febs]

How about when you want to go to your songs list, it shows it form the beggining, the OF automatically highlights the song youre playing.

Read the section of the manual relating to the "Follow playlist" setting?

I tried that and all it does is highlights a song that i choose from the FILES, it doesnt highlight the one currently playing.

Are you starting playback from the Database or from the File Browser?  If you have "Follow playlist" set to "Yes" and you have started playback from the File Browser, when you press the SELECT button while in the While-Playing-Screen, Rockbox will switch to the file browser and highlight the currently playing song.

[pixelma]

Also the recording feature on rockbox sucks, on the OF you just press the record button on the side and it records and you can pause or stop and it asks if you want to save. On rockbox you have to go through your files to find the recordings and sometimes you go into record mode by mistake and you dont want it to save it. Rockbox doesnt ask if you want to save.

I don't want to join your wording, so here's my list why Rockbox has a better recording feature* (within their hardware limitations) - my opinion in no specific order - and even though I haven't used it much yet but it's good to know that I have the possibilities to:

• record in 22.05kHz
• chose recording in mono or stereo myself
• record in wav, wavpack (needs less storage but is lossless) or mp3 (lossy but good if short of storage and the hardware already limits the quality of the recording, no big loss here)
• set the folder I want as recording directory which also makes it possible to use additional storage in form of microSD card(s) for it; you don't need to search for your recordings if you know you can do that (see manual)
• storage is the only limit in the length of the recording (and the FAT file size limit but Rockbox automatically starts a new file seemlessly if it reaches the limit)

against the original firmware's

• 16kHz recordings
• hardcoded "record in mono" for voice recordings and stereo only for FM recordings
• only record in wav (needs the most storage)
• hardcoded recording directories make it impossible to use memory cards
• limiting the size of the record (when I experimented with it I only thought they had a big safety margin letting me record 20 minutes of FM (stereo) or 40 minutes of voice (mono) with 80MB of free disk space but from your description I could now imagine something worse: that the OF only records what fits in RAM and writes it away after you've been asked... makes longer recordings impossible even with GBs of free disk space. And as Febs said the ability to delete files from within Rockbox at least equals the ability to chose whether a recording should be saved or not.)

Note: this is from my tries with the c200 original firmware but I would be very surprised if there were major differences in the e200 firmware. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. It didn't take me as long to think about these points as to type them out here...

*) you seem to only mean the controls though as I understand now, but these points might still be interesting.