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Mad Cow:

--- Quote from: saratoga on April 08, 2008, 07:12:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mad Cow on April 08, 2008, 06:34:39 PM ---That I meant to say is that it's much, much better documented.

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They're actually both about equally well documented, with mp3 maybe a bit better since theres so many books written about it and so many decoders to look at.


--- Quote from: Mad Cow on April 08, 2008, 06:34:39 PM --- Most MP3 decoders are all reverse engineered, while FLAC decoders are based on the source code and likely much more documentation.

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I don't think there are any reverse engineered MP3 decoders.  Its actually an open format, with the mpeg people distributing both the spec and a reference codec (dist10).

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Really? I always thought that mp3 wasn't completely open. Oh well, I guess I'm wrong there, but I do remember seeing a chart somewhere on the wiki which showed how much CPU power each codec used and FLAC used less than MP3.

Chronon:
Mad Cow, maybe the confusion is over decoders vs. encoders.

AlexP:

--- Quote from: Mad Cow on April 09, 2008, 11:53:20 AM ---Really? I always thought that mp3 wasn't completely open. Oh well, I guess I'm wrong there, but I do remember seeing a chart somewhere on the wiki which showed how much CPU power each codec used and FLAC used less than MP3.

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FLAC does use less CPU (but hits the disk more often) than MP3, but this is due to how each codec works, nothing to do with being open source/close source/whatever.

Llorean:
In fact, FLAC was more or less engineered to be as quick a decode as they could make it while still having decent compression for lossless.

ebag4:
I also have a iPod 5.5G 80 Gig unit.  I installed the current build of Rockbox yesterday, 3/10/08.  My FLAC files are stuttering as well.  I reset the Rockbox settings as recommended earlier in this thread, however I am still getting stuttering.  MP3 files seem to play OK.  I have used these same FLAC files for a number of years first with FOOBAR and now with a Squeezebox SB3 as well with no issues.  Are there any other recommendations?  If it is recommended to load a previous version of Rockbox, which version is recommended?  Stuttering (about a 1 second pause in play) seems to be intermittent, meaning that not all songs stutter and the ones that have so far have not necessarilly stuttered throughout the entire song.  I have just loaded my music database today so my experience so far is limited to very few songs.  So far this is what I have documented.  I intially thought it might have something to do with the bitrate, but that theory doesn't seem to hold true.
 
Track   Bitrate   Time   Note                                   Note 2
1   1055   3:56   Stuttered Immediately   Didn't Stutter, no buttons pushed, album restarted after finishing last song
2   1001   3:26   Stuttered Immediately   Didn't Stutter, no buttons pushed, let album continue to play
3   916   4:04   Stuttered Immediately   Stuttered @ 1:10
4   859   4:19   Stuttered Immediately   Didn't Stutter
5   1028   4:17   Stuttered Immediately   Didn't Stutter
6   1021   2:37   Stuttered Immediately   Stuttered immediately
7   1055   3:41   Stuttered Immediately   
8   979   3:36   No Stutter   
9   1068   3:51   No Stutter   
10   856   3:52   Stutter @ 1:16   
11   948   2:33   No Stutter   
12   978   4:26   Stutter@ 2:40   
            
Album 2            
1   939   2:36   No Stutter   
2   848   6:41   No Stutter
3   888   6:28   No Stutter
4   923   6:25   Stutter@ 3:36
5   893   4:34   No Stutter
6   795   2:12   No Stutter
7   981   2:29   Stutter@ 1:40
8   849   4:42   No Stutter
9   930   8:28   Stutter @ 4:56

Thanks for any recommendations.

Best,
Ed

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