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edit: first test run!
DisturbedPyro:
ok, i got my iriver h320 all rockboxed up. and i looked through the iriver faqs about recording settings and set everything to what it said but i would just like to get further advice.
i will be stealthing at loud rock shows with an iriver h320 and chris church STC-11 mics and a BAT-2B. some recordings will be at smaller venues (local bands) but the real important ones will be at larger ones. so i want to know what settings would be best for my equipment and the type of show i am going to record. also, i had some questions as to what stuff is for that i didnt see an explanation of in the faqs. thanks again for all the help
1. i know the frequency deals with the sample rate. but does this effect the overal quality of the recording? i see in the faqs it is suggested to be set at 44.1. is this always the case? or to get the best recording possibvle should it be higher? if this depends, when should it be changed to the others?
2. should channel ever be changed to mono? or is stereo always good?
3. when setting the range of my clip meter displays, the faqs say -30dB & 0dB. will this be appropriate for my recording needs? ie - a loud rock show at large and small venues?
4. what is the best setting for high and low gain? what should i set Gain Left and Gain Right at?
5. i hear that a lot of recordings sound like the bass is too high. how can this be avoided? the sound settings only changes when listening to playback right? it has no effect on recording
basically, should i change the settings in any way from what the faqs suggest for my equipment and the type of show i will be recording? thank you
well, i had my first test run last night! CCR concert, it was last minute, i didnt even know a couple of my friends were goin until like 2 hrs before we were to leave. it was only 10 bucks to get in and it was a good opportunity to test out my gear, so i went. im very pleased with the results, the quality is great. but there was no one around us so it wasnt a good test for talking, clapping, ect. you can clearly hear my voice and my two friends around me so i know that will be a lot more of a disturbance when people are all over the place yelling and everything. however, the band was very quiet so maybe at a louder show peoples voices wont show up as much. i guess ill have to see
only bad thing about the recording is its a little on the quiet side. i know i can boost the sound in editing programs but i dont want to distort the quality any by increasing the volume. is there any best way to increase the volume without distorting the sound?
heres a link to a clip from the opening local band: http://www.sendspace.com/file/gs49u5
Davide-NYC:
Stay with the FAQ as far as I can tell.
1. Higher bitrate = better.
2. Stereo if you have two mics.
3. Loud rock shows tend to have less dynamic range so you *could* bring the peak meter range lower limit up a bit. Also you could bring down the the higher limit for added safety margin. But I would just leave them be.
4. That depends on your mics, your positioning, the venue, the band, the soundman, etc etc etc.
5. You could get a battery box with a bass roll-off switch.
DisturbedPyro:
--- Quote from: Davide-NYC on March 20, 2008, 10:18:54 PM ---Stay with the FAQ as far as I can tell.
1. Higher bitrate = better.
2. Stereo if you have two mics.
3. Loud rock shows tend to have less dynamic range so you *could* bring the peak meter range lower limit up a bit. Also you could bring down the the higher limit for added safety margin. But I would just leave them be.
4. That depends on your mics, your positioning, the venue, the band, the soundman, etc etc etc.
5. You could get a battery box with a bass roll-off switch.
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1. is there a way to get the frequency higher than 44.1?
4. so should i leave it at 0 since im a newbie. or is there a number i could set them to that would generally be good?
5. im getting a BAT-2B. i dont know if that has a bass roll-off switch or not. i dont have it yet. but turning down thet bass in sound settings doesnt effect recording options right? so there is no way to make the recording less sensative to bass by altering an option in the settings? that seems strange, but then again, im new to this so, what do i know ???
petur:
making rockbox less sensitive to bass in software would be a useless thing to do anyway, because the only reason you want to do bass roll-off is to prevent your mics from overloading the input circuits of your recorder (h300).
If the show is very bass-heavy and you have sensitive mics, it is a wise thing to do, but OTOH I use Chris Church's cards with his st-9100 pre-amp and do not use the bass roll-off. YMMV
As you do not have external gain change possibilities, set AGC mode to AGC-Safety, Gain to +15 or 20dB and enjoy the show. At worst, the first parts may have slight overloading while AGC slowly turns down gain.
AGC time constant is a bit of a discussion: I have it set to 200ms for fast response, but that means it also responds to shouters and clappers...
have fun!
DisturbedPyro:
yeah i have AGC mode set to AGC-Safety. the range of my clip meter is: -30dB & 0dB (thats what i saw in iriver taperssection faqs.) but what about Gain Left and Gain Right? what is a good number to set those to?
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