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Can I install Rockbox without "Initialising" a via iTunes?
AlexP:
/me decides to try and defuse somewhat...
mruddo - welcome to Rockbox, and I hope you enjoy it. However, do be aware that we are very hot on any mentions of 'dodgy' activity (as well as the forums being pretty strictly moderated). Let's draw a line under this and be united in Rockbox!
mruddo:
Thank you BigBambi - nicely put!
Fine by me. :)
asterix2112:
I have to defend mruddio here, and I'll give you a specific example. I bought a Dell laptop that came with Vista. Had to install Windows XP on it (which I did). I then has a problem with the Bluetooth hardware chip. Called Dell, even told them during troubleshotting that I installed XP on it, but they realised it was a hardware problem and send me a new Bluetooth module. No problems as my installation of a new operating system had nothing to do with a hardware problem.
If I buy an iPod and put Rockbox on it and then the hard drive dies, or the screen goes or something hardware related happens (that's not because I mis-used it, of course) I would expect Apple to honor its warentee. Now, of course if I installed Rockbox and then could not get the Apple operating system working again that would be my fault, but I fail to see how changing software on a computer (which is all an iPod is) can effect the warentee on the hardware.
- John
AlexP:
--- Quote from: asterix2112 on March 03, 2008, 10:34:03 AM ---I have to defend mruddio here, and I'll give you a specific example. I bought a Dell laptop that came with Vista. Had to install Windows XP on it (which I did). I then has a problem with the Bluetooth hardware chip. Called Dell, even told them during troubleshotting that I installed XP on it, but they realised it was a hardware problem and send me a new Bluetooth module. No problems as my installation of a new operating system had nothing to do with a hardware problem.
If I buy an iPod and put Rockbox on it and then the hard drive dies, or the screen goes or something hardware related happens (that's not because I mis-used it, of course) I would expect Apple to honor its warentee. Now, of course if I installed Rockbox and then could not get the Apple operating system working again that would be my fault, but I fail to see how changing software on a computer (which is all an iPod is) can effect the warentee on the hardware.
- John
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That argument doesn't work. I refer you to Llorean's earlier answer above that I quote below. Most products like iPods specifically forbid you to alter the firmware. For instance on the iriver website, Rockbox is mentioned by name as voiding the warranty.
--- Quote from: Llorean on March 02, 2008, 04:37:12 PM ---Windows PCs usually do not have a warranty that explicitly forbids you to alter the software installed. Most products like iPods do. Reinstalling the original software and attempting to return it to them when you have violated their warranty *is* a real problem in that case.
Making light of it by comparing it to a PC doesn't change the fact that there are terms to their warranty, and you may be voluntarily breaking it by installing Rockbox.
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asterix2112:
BigBambi,
Hmm, interesting. Maybe that's why I always buy Dell's! But what I really wonder is if that would stand up in court? This is purely hypothetical, just debating here, but a lot of times companies and such will state that you can or can not do something even though it would not stand up to a court challenge just because they want to scare people into not doing it. An example would be my parents homeowners association which still states you need HOA approval for a Direct TV type satellite disk, even though the Supreme Court ruled years ago that HOA specifically cannot prohibit an outdoor antenna or satellite dish. So I really wonder if it would hold up (but it's not like someone is going to sue Apple over a $300 iPod, which is what those companies count on)
- John
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