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GodEater:

--- Quote from: studente on March 02, 2008, 09:19:43 AM ---Let me make one thing clear please - I created the db by dragging whole folders to my Ipod content, so, maybe I shoud have done this with music files only, not folders? Can't be?

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The folders you've dragged contain no meta data as they're not files. Therefore information for them is not found in the database. What I'm saying here is that it doesn't matter whether you've copied music files individually or in folders - it makes no difference to the database.

studente:

--- Quote ---The folders you've dragged contain no meta data as they're not files. Therefore information for them is not found in the database.
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What do you mean by °information not found in the database", I agree, the folders don't contain any recognizable data, but are displayed correctly in the db, along those empty one


--- Quote ---What I''m saying here is that it doesn't matter whether you've copied music files individually or in folders - it makes no difference to the database.
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But you've just said the folders can't be recognized as containing data...I'am confused a bit ???

Llorean:
The database is ONLY a database of Metadata. Folders do not have Metadata, so they do not show up in the database. It is constructed entirely from tags on files.

You need to differentiate between "metadata" and "data". The folder itself contains no metadata. The folder MIGHT contain files (data), and those files might contain metadata. But the folder itself doesn't matter at all, and is ignored by the database.

GodEater:

--- Quote from: studente on March 03, 2008, 02:53:07 PM ---but are displayed correctly in the db, along those empty one

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No they're not.

What you're seeing in the database are not "folders" they are views of files which contain the same metadata.

For example :

If I have a folder of music on my PC called "Faith No More", and all the music files therein contain the metadata tag for Artist which is set to "Faith No More" as well. I then copy that folder and all its content to my Rockboxed DAP, and initialise the database. Then the database will group all those files together in something which looks like a folder - but isn't. It's just grouped all the files with that artist tag together under one Artist heading. It has not taken the name from the folder on the PC, or on the Rockboxed device's disk.

If however the folder were called "Something entirely different", but still just contained those files all by "Faith No More", and I repeated the copy exercise to my DAP - the database would still only contain something which appears to be a folder called "Faith No More" under Artists - there would be no trace of anything called "Something entirely different", since the database didn't care what folder the files were in when it indexed them.

Does that help explain it ?

Chronon:

--- Quote from: studente on February 29, 2008, 04:39:12 AM ---I was used to copying music to my ip through Itunes, so, as you know - I added some folders to the library and then to my already booted ipod (draging entire folders). As to deleting - I selected the files i want to delete and then used "the delete" function in iTunes.

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It sounds very much like you are synching via iTunes.  In this case iTunes loads the files with random names into folders such as /iPod_Control/Music/F01/.  So I'm confused by all of this discussion about folders.  Did folders containing files get explicitly written to the iPod or did you use iTunes to synch your music?

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