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Offline Chronon

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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2008, 02:40:17 PM »
I had never heard of the H3xx referred to that way.  I was not under the impression that it suffered from poor battery life.
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2008, 02:45:47 PM »
Quote from: Chronon on March 20, 2008, 02:40:17 PM
I had never heard of the H3xx referred to that way.  I was not under the impression that it suffered from poor battery life.
The H300 does not suffer battery issues.  Rockbox beats stock.

Quote from: TheNewMinistry on March 20, 2008, 12:35:59 PM
H10 20gb gets the same battery life as the OF (around 11 hours), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Since nobody has taken the time to update the wiki - we have no objective numbers. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRuntime

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Quote from: Scuzzo on March 20, 2008, 02:10:08 PM
welp, i have sounded in on this a few times and i really dig rockbox, and i wanted a good solid mod-able player hdd.  i could not find the h120 any where and i wanted color screen, so i threw the on a Soviet Ipod,  I will suffer the battery life issues but i really like the retro-coldwar style of it. may mod it with some USSR graphics on inskin.. any how.. thanks for the advise on player choice...   not near as spiffy as the new players out but the sound should be really strong with it.. we will see

Would you please state that again in a legible form?
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2008, 03:38:33 PM »
i will try..

the h320 is has been called a soviet ipod on a few reviews i have read.. i guess its cause of the clunky button interface and the no frills looks of it.  after reading reviews and recommendations for the DAP that is best suited to be rockboxed, i decided to purchase one bout 65 bucks.  i like the fact that you can replace the hard drive and the battery. and the retro look,  of what i have read the sound quality is very good.   as far as battery life, there is some concern, iriver stats states around 14hrs but i hear of folks getting shy of 6hrs in a lot of reviews.  perhaps the newest firm ware has addressed this. i dont know..  and then i just prattled on about perhaps modding it with an inskin with some  USSR graphics.. blah blah..  i tend to ramble.  

sorry if my previous post was a bit confusing..
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2008, 04:59:09 PM »
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Strange, I've never heard the H300 being called a Soviet iPod!

I can't really find any resemblance between them. In most aspects H300 was far better than the equivalent iPod of the time (save perhaps the form factor), so I wouldn't even try to compare them.

Sadly, Apple is known for its wondrous advertising and marketing habits. iRiver completely lost the game, and iPod outsold the H300. That's maybe the reason why the former company completely retracted from the big storage DAP section, and focused completely in flash or low storage HD based players.
Rant mode off

Also the OF had a battery runtime of 14-16 hours (and it was realistic not like iPod claims), if I remember correctly. Nowadays Rockbox increased that to 20 hours. So yeah, there is definitely no problem battery wise, with the H300.
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2008, 06:47:45 PM »
Quote from: XavierGr on March 20, 2008, 04:59:09 PM
Also the OF had a battery runtime of 14-16 hours (and it was realistic not like iPod claims)
If we're ranting - I should add that Apple claims 20, and I got 22 on my 5th gen.
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2008, 06:50:14 PM »
And for reference I've gotten battery runtimes both below and above the claimed runtime from two identical "new" players. Since batteries are lithium based, a lot of it surely depends on warehouse and shelf time.

Needless to say, manufacturer estimates never really matter, especially since they don't describe what you'll get in Rockbox, so let's stick to the "Rockbox runtime" based on recent battery benches. :)
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2008, 09:02:04 PM »
Quote from: soap on March 20, 2008, 06:47:45 PM
If we're ranting - I should add that Apple claims 20, and I got 22 on my 5th gen.

True, though if I am not mistaken the H300 competed with the 4th Generation iPod and iPod Photo (12 and 15 hours respectively), not the 5th generation players which had a pleasant improvement in the battery department.

But yeah, as Llorean said, it matters what you get in Rockbox and not in the OF that (hopefully) no one uses. :)
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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2008, 10:20:23 PM »

hmm, looks like the soviet ipod remark was taken way wrong,
i think it was called that because it was a real piece of utility equipment, ie no glam foo foo touches, just buttons and no glitter, it was desgined to perform a task with out giving the user style points and form factor gee wiz points.  its a  real black box..  it was not to say the soviet ipod is just an inferior player to the real ipod or any thing..   i never liked ipods and perhaps never will, personal choice that's all.  im going to Rockbox the h320 for sure. I hope the battery life will be decent, i have not checked on the battery test of the h320.

 i have heard many good things about the h320 so when i call it a soviet ipod im not trying to slight in any way.  just hope that single  platter 40gb hard drives drop to a lower price point.. or that come out with a new more compact lower height replacment drive with more space...  

long live rock!!   ..box

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Re: What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2008, 04:50:33 PM »
I didn't take it as insulting, really.  I was a little surprised at the many pages that refer to that target in that way, though.  Particularly, as it's so popular here I would have expected to have heard it before.  I think a lot of the protestation upthread was at the suggestion that the H3xx suffers from poor battery life.
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