What is the "Flagship" player for Rockbox?

[Chronon]

That drive will not fit into the case.  You need a 1.8" drive, not a 2.5" one, if you expect to be able to mount it inside of the case.

[AlexP]

Have a look at www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement to see which players take which drives.

[XavierGr]

As others have said among the Software Codec Targets H100 is the best and most complete for various reasons. (well IMHO)

1) Implements all and more features that the original firmware.
2) It is among the most stable targets and the most mature.
3) Quite good battery life and of course better than the OF.
4) Can be flashed and remove the OF entirely for better boot up times.
5) Best recording DAP out there.

That's 5 reasons on top of my head, probably there are more.

On 2nd place I would choose H300.
Unfortunately H300 comes way back comparing to H100 because:
1) We don't have USB OTG yet.
2) The target isn't flashable like H100.
3) Doesn't have optical in/out.
On the other hand it has a colour display and more buttons

3rd place for me could be iAudio targets and/or Gigabeat F.

Sadly the most popular PortaPlayer based targets, come last because of closed Hardware documentation.

[Job Van Dam]

Another thing that might help the lag is defragmenting the disk. Make that puppy nice and contigious...

[GodEater]

No - you can't use that drive.

Firstly, it's a 2.5" drive, which means the only Rockbox targets it would even fit inside are the Archos models - but it's also using a SATA interface - which we have no support for at all.

[soap]

That is a 2.5" HDD, outside the old Archos players, all Rockbox targets (and most all HDD based DAPs) use 1.8" HDDs.  (Well, except those targets using 1" microdrives or flash memory.)

That drive you linked is also SATA.  I believe all Rockbox targets use PATA of one connector format or another.  

Check out the wiki article on HDD replacement:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement

[Scuzzo]

im looking into getting a player with a bit more space now i have a 4gb flash player,  i really dig the whole rockbox application so i wish to us it to maximum
i see there is a bit of an a agreement that the Iriver h100 and h300 series are perhaps the gold standard for performance for RB.  

how would the iRiver h10 fair, are there any others who would be considered a very good option.  what issues has the iRver h10 failing to make it a good purchase for the RB platform.  just looking to gain some much needed insight on which player to look in go purchase in the future.

thanks for the fourm,

[soap]

The iRiver H10 has as much in common with the iRiver H100 / H300 as the iPods do.
In fact, the iRiver H10 is an iPod mini with colour screen by another name.


The iAudio X5 / M5 is very closely related to the iRiver H100 / H300 series.

Personally, I would consider the H10 the worst Rockbox target.  It has all the downsides of the PortalPlayer targets, and a horrible slider "button".
The only upside I see is that an H10 5 or 6GB player can be easily upgraded with a CF card replacing the microdrive.  That, and colour screen can deliver more information than monochrome screens of the same resolution.

[pixelma]

The only upside I see is that an H10 5 or 6GB player can be easily upgraded with a CF card replacing the microdrive.

Which might turn out to be not even true. The microdrive used in the small H10 has a so-called "F-Flex connector" (see HardDriveReplacement wiki) - in opposite to the Ipod Mini's microdrive which has a CF type connector. I talked to someone and he said it could be possible that this F-Flex connector is made of adapters internally but he didn't take his H10 apart yet, and I couldn't find board scans that answer this question when quickly searching a bit. At least it needs some investigation...

[Chronon]

I think you are correct, pixelma.  This page (Seagate Tech. ST660211FX) refers to it as a 1" removable drive with an IDE interface.  This suggests that there's no embedded adapter in the F-Flex connector.

It seems you would have to get an IDE-CF adapter to use a CF card in the H10.

[soap]

Grr, sorry for the misinformation, and thanks for the diligence of pixelma.

[acb5649]

I vote for the H10 in the fact that it gets good battery life. Soap is inncorect as the ipod mini is the worst target as it is a greyscale and not much resolution.

And I prefer the "slider" than the wheel as it is easier to manuver. 8-)

And I believe that the H10 20gb is the one that can be upgraded with a CF card.

[AlexP]

Many targets can be changed to use a CF card with the use of on adaptor, but there are currently a few problems with that.

Soap is not wrong, and neither are you, as this is all opinions.  In my opinion, the H10 is very much one of the worst targets.  The battery life is less than the OF, whereas many Rockbox targets get MORE battery life than the OF, so in those terms the H10 is definitely, factually, not a good choice if battery life matters to you.  I hate the slider thing on the H10.  As I use my DAP (Digital Audio Player) to play music, the colour or resolution of the screen doesn't bother me much (although all else being equal, of course I would prefer a nice colour screen).

[TheNewMinistry]

Soap is not wrong, and neither are you, as this is all opinions.  In my opinion, the H10 is very much one of the worst targets.  The battery life is less than the OF, whereas many Rockbox targets get MORE battery life than the OF, so in those terms the H10 is definitely, factually, not a good choice if battery life matters to you.  I hate the slider thing on the H10.  As I use my DAP (Digital Audio Player) to play music, the colour or resolution of the screen doesn't bother me much (although all else being equal, of course I would prefer a nice colour screen).

H10 20gb gets the same battery life as the OF (around 11 hours), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[Scuzzo]

welp, i have sounded in on this a few times and i really dig rockbox, and i wanted a good solid mod-able player hdd.  i could not find the h120 any where and i wanted color screen, so i threw the on a Soviet Ipod,  I will suffer the battery life issues but i really like the retro-coldwar style of it. may mod it with some USSR graphics on inskin.. any how.. thanks for the advise on player choice...   not near as spiffy as the new players out but the sound should be really strong with it.. we will see