Details of options when selecting option settings

[Pileot]

This isnt a huge concept...

For the many various options rockbox has there is usually a large amount of open space at the bottom of the widow... So why not put a brief description of what the options do so you dont need to keep refering back to the wiki to see what the things do...

For instance... When adding music, i know i need to refresh the database, but do i want to auto updte, initialize now, or update now? well if the bottom of the screen sad what the highlighted option did there would be less guessing... and less noobs asking the same questions...



Also, i have found it very hard to find the video playback info for the ipod 5.5g... i know its on the wiki somewhere, but every time i go looking for it it takes an hour to find because i cant remember the exact words to search,,, so if there could be a link put somewhere obvious, that would help.



Another thing... when rockbox features are added or things are tweaked, i find i hard to know should i update RB... is the update somthing i want? Im not the most technical person in the world, i dont always understand the technical mumbo jumbo saing what was updated today... Is there a place that has the updates for, say, the last month written out in easy to understand words for us non geeks?



Lastly, i have noticed theres a "charge during USB connection" option, but theres no entry for it on the wiki for the ipod 5.5g... can anyone assist with this?


*edit*
Oh remembered a few other things...

How can i set a rating for my songs? I noticed theres an option to sort the music by rating, but everything is set to 0

Is there a way i can delete songs without plugging into a computer?
      ^While a song is playing, hold select. in the context menu you can delete the song

I just found the database.ignore / database.unignore ability, it rocks.... It would be helpfull if there was a place that listed all the little things like that that make rockbox that much more easier to work with...

[GodEater]

For the many various options rockbox has there is usually a large amount of open space at the bottom of the widow... So why not put a brief description of what the options do so you dont need to keep refering back to the wiki to see what the things do...

There's only a large amount of open space on devices with large screens. The majority of Rockbox targets don't have large screens, so there's no space to do this.

Also, i have found it very hard to find the video playback info for the ipod 5.5g... i know its on the wiki somewhere, but every time i go looking for it it takes an hour to find because i cant remember the exact words to search,,, so if there could be a link put somewhere obvious, that would help.

Which info do you mean ? Also, once you've found it, why not use the "Bookmark" feature of your browser - that's kind of what it's there for ?

Another thing... when rockbox features are added or things are tweaked, i find i hard to know should i update RB... is the update somthing i want? Im not the most technical person in the world, i dont always understand the technical mumbo jumbo saing what was updated today... Is there a place that has the updates for, say, the last month written out in easy to understand words for us non geeks?

If you don't understand what an update does, then you probably don't want it - just stick to builds which contain things you *do* understand, and you'll be fine. Otherwise you could follow the MajorChanges[/wiki] page.

Lastly, i have noticed theres a "charge during USB connection" option, but theres no entry for it on the wiki for the ipod 5.5g... can anyone assist with this?

It doesn't really apply to the 5.5G - holding down the "Menu" button when you plug in a USB cable is all you need to do for this to happen.

How can i set a rating for my songs? I noticed theres an option to sort the music by rating, but everything is set to 0

You need to enable "Gather run time data". Once you have done so, a Rating option will show up in the WPS context menu to allow you set the rating for each song. This is covered in the manual.

Is there a way i can delete songs without plugging into a computer?

Yes - that's also covered in the manual.

I just found the database.ignore / database.unignore ability, it rocks.... It would be helpfull if there was a place that listed all the little things like that that make rockbox that much more easier to work with...

There is - it's called the manual - although I don't think this feature has quite made it in there yet - we're hoping to address that shortly.

[bzavala]

fyi...

Gather Runtime Data is currently not working...

FS#8529

[Pileot]

I have been through the manual several times looking for answers as to what the different options do... and i have yet to find where it talks about deleting songs on the fly..

As to bookmarking... Its not that easy when you change computers often. And im talking about the mpg player plugin (or whatever its called) that allows video playback.

Everyone always says check the manual check the manual... well i have checked the manual over and over, and its not answering my questions. If i come here asking about it the least you could do is link me to the page its described in the manual... that way i can read it for myself...

And in searching yesterday i was looking at playlists.. and was unable to get the screen that would let you insert songs into the playlist... All i could get is the save / load playlist screen. Any suggestions (other than "check the manual") ?

[pondlife]

And in searching yesterday i was looking at playlists.. and was unable to get the screen that would let you insert songs into the playlist... All i could get is the save / load playlist screen. Any suggestions (other than "check the manual") ?

Sorry, couldn't resist - but If I understand you correctly, the manual explains this.  Have a look at  http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-410004.1.2 and http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-700004.4.3

pondlife

[Pileot]

yes i found that page, but i dont get that screen... i only get the save/load playlist screen...

[Lear]

You get to the insert/queue options by selecting "Playlist" in the file menu, not the main menu. As mentioned in section 4.1.1 of the manual, a long press on select takes you to the file menu, while you go to the main menu by pressing the menu button.

[Febs]

To answer your other question, the File Menu mentioned in Lear's last post is also the menu that allows you to delete songs on the fly.

[Pileot]

I try pressing long select and i get a "Context Menu"... Is that where i can change the playlists? My screen is still very different from the one in the guide...

I got to the context... er... File menu by pressing long select...
then i select playlist...
and i have view current playlist, search in playlist, save current playlist, and reshuffle. I can not find the insert/que options...

Oh and i noticed the delete button, thats cool, never noticed it before.

This is really confusing... Is there a thread that explains this stuff better than the help file?

[Febs]

I try pressing long select

1.  What Rockbox build version are you using.  (Please see our posting guidelines for an explanation of how to find this information.)

2.  Where are you in the menus/file browser when you press long select?

[Pileot]

i have no idea what menus im getting... at this point its random button pressing and seeing what happens...

I started rockbox, used the database to find an artist i wanted to play... selected a song. it started playing.

While it was playing i pressed long select and got a context menu, which i noted had delete, which is awesome, one answer there.

Tried selecting playlist, got the same playlist menu as everywhere else.
tried pausing playback and doing it again, no change.

RB version r16179m-080127
ipod video 30 gig 5.5g

[Febs]

I started rockbox, used the database to find an artist i wanted to play... selected a song. it started playing.

Go to the same place but instead of doing a short press of the Select button to start playing a song, do a long press.  That will give you the file context menu.  From that point, you can select "Playlist" and then choose from various options for inserting or queuing your selected song into the current dynamic playlist.

If you do the same thing from the file browser instead of from the database, you will have additional options including "Playlist Catalog," which allows you to insert the selected song to a playlist other than the dynamic playlist.

While it was playing i pressed long select and got a context menu, which i noted had delete, which is awesome, one answer there.

Does this context menu give you the "Playlist Catalog" option?  That would be another way of adding the currently playing song to a playlist.

[Pileot]

Oooooooooooooooohhhhh!!!!

That makes soo much more sense! When you go to play the file instead of selecting the song to play, hold select and add it to the playlist.... duh...

lol that is soo much easier to figure out... the manual makes it sound confusing...


Yes i get a playlist catelog the way i was doing it before (long select from the WPS screen) but i couldnt figure out how to use it...

[GodEater]

lol that is soo much easier to figure out... the manual makes it sound confusing...

Could you help us out here then and suggest a change to the manual which makes it less confusing?

[MarcGuay]

Also, i have found it very hard to find the video playback info for the ipod 5.5g... i know its on the wiki somewhere, but every time i go looking for it it takes an hour to find because i cant remember the exact words to search,,, so if there could be a link put somewhere obvious, that would help.

If you're talking about the MPEG player plugin, it's linked to from both the "extras" and "index" pages on the left side panel of every page on the website.

I just found the database.ignore / database.unignore ability, it rocks.... It would be helpfull if there was a place that listed all the little things like that that make rockbox that much more easier to work with...

Try poking your nose in the User Interface section of the documentation index in the wiki. ("index" on the left panel), I've gathered everything that might be of interest to average users on that page.  The rest is in the manual, which I agree is hard to understand, but if you try to rewrite it yourself you'll see how difficult it can be to explain complex ideas in simple terms, trust me.