Possible ZIF to 1.8" IDE adapter! 100GB iriver H140?

[Jeff]

These may work...  i have one in hand and it has a 50 pin connector to ZIF.  However,  I would need to either cut the two Plastic guide pins off the connector on the player or off of the adapter to plug it in all the way.

Take a look

ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-8-ZIF-Hard-Disk-to-Laptop-1-8-IDE-Convert-Adapter_W0QQitemZ370027451052QQihZ024QQcategoryZ116333QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262


Photo:

[Davide-NYC]

Clarification: That is *EXACTLY* the adapter I received in the mail.

I made a quick photochop image of the adapter installed and the hard drive installed (separately) and I overlay-ed them to approximate the space problem.

[Jeff]

Can anyone point me to a ZIF drive, used or new that I could try with it??

Edit:

Yes, the issue is with the height of the drive.   A 5mm drive may work, but an 8mm drive will not fit

[Davide-NYC]

IIUC you are suggesting putting a 5mm drive (+ adapter) in a H140 or H340.

I have an H140 I can test you idea with. I will take pictures. Stay tuned.

[Jeff]

IIUC you are suggesting putting a 5mm drive (+ adapter) in a H140 or H340.

I have an H140 I can test you idea with. I will take pictures. Stay tuned.

Yes...  I have a 140 sitting in front of me and the ZIF > IDE Adapter but no ZIF HDD.  I'm suggesting that a 5mm drive will fit but an 8mm drive will not.   That brings up the issue of capacity as the largest 5mm drives are 40GB I believe so no real benefit.

[juanpa74]

What about the H340?
Will it fit?

[Davide-NYC]

That brings up the issue of capacity as the largest 5mm drives are 40GB I believe so no real benefit.

Don't despair! There may be real benefit with a 5mm drive.  

The Toshiba  MK8022GAA is 80GB, has a ZIF-40 interface, and is 5mm thick.

No pricing that I could find but it look plausible. Am I missing something? (it's entirely possible)

[Jeff]

That brings up the issue of capacity as the largest 5mm drives are 40GB I believe so no real benefit.

Don't despair! There may be real benefit with a 5mm drive.  

The Toshiba  MK8022GAA is 80GB, has a ZIF-40 interface, and is 5mm thick.

No pricing that I could find but it look plausible. Am I missing something? (it's entirely possible)

No despair...  i've got a used ipod classic 80GB coming my way which I will dismantle for the hard drive for testing.

[burkjavier]

I'm curious if anyone has tried adding a ZIF 1.8" HDD on the Gigabeat F series - 50 pin connector on the HDD side, but what looks like a ZIF(?) connector on the PCB.   I'm thinking that the adapter mentioned should work, or perhaps only the ZIF ribbon would be needed?   I will be testing this myself in a few weeks, but I'm wondering if anyone has attempted this, already.

Cheers, Brian

[maps]

Well, I have here a Gigabeat F, and the 60Gig Zif HDD and the adapter seen a few posts above on their way to me...
So we will hopefully know some time next week...

I will keep you posted.

Regards
Michael

[GodEater]

I think someone already tried this with the drive from an S60 and putting it into and F40 chassis. The Connector in the F series *looks* like a ZIF, but it isn't.

[burkjavier]

I just got my ZIF to 50 pin adapter in the mail today and started my tests (getting my F40 to work with my ZIF based MK6008GAH - using just the ribbon did not work at all.  Using the 50 pin adapter in-between allowed the drive to spin up and be viewable on my PC, but it could never completely load.  In Windows, I saw the device but no drive letter (and nothing in Disk Management).  In Ubuntu, dmesg saw the device but there were a lot of errors, and I couldn't mount it.   Such a shame that this wonderful device cannot be upgraded to a ZIF drive.

EDIT:  This is interesting.  With the adapter, USB mode does not work, as mentioned.  However, if I copy files to the ZIF drive via alternate means and then attach the drive to the F40, it does load up Rockbox and it does play music.   Not sure if the tolerance for errors is higher, or if there's just something about USB mode that the adapter does not like.   Still not very usable, given that I'd need to pull out the hard drive every time I wanted to add files to the F40.   Plus, I can't put the darn thing back together with the extra adapter in it!  

[petur]

still, that's interesting... ATA access can be tweaked in Rockbox, and once we have our own USB stack there should be no more problems...

FYI: I'm working on using CF cards in iriver h1x0/h3x0, and the original firmware also doesn't like them, whereas Rockbox has been teached to love them already

[NicolasP]

I think someone already tried this with the drive from an S60 and putting it into and F40 chassis. The Connector in the F series *looks* like a ZIF, but it isn't.

After breaking the HD in my F, I attempted to use my S' HD in the F. The connector seemed to fit but making the connection just caused the F to shut down.

EDIT: Oh and I forgot to mention that LinusN apparently managed to fit an MK1011GAH (100GB, ZIF) in his H140 and boot Rockbox successfully: IRC log.

[Jeff]

EDIT: Oh and I forgot to mention that LinusN apparently managed to fit an MK1011GAH (100GB, ZIF) in his H140 and boot Rockbox successfully: IRC log.

So in theory then, the 160GB iPod Classic HDD should work as well.