Possible ZIF to 1.8" IDE adapter! 100GB iriver H140?

[inluxication]

It seems odd that the iRiver firmware would work but Rockbox not.  Can you actually load on music and play it under the iRiver firmware?  When my drive was not properly connected, since there was no iRiver software to access on the drive, the bootloader would default to the iRiver firmware in the player itself (or so I guess), but nothing actually worked.

Since your drive is ZIF, there has to be some way of releasing the pressure on the pins, but in your photos I can't see what it would be.  I'd suggest: 1. Look with a magnifying glass or loupe.  2. Try to look up information about the drive on the Samsung site, Wikipedia, or wherever.  3. In your photos, past the end or ends of the connector, there is a round dimple or two that looks like it's the same material as the connector.  If you press it/those, does it release the pins and let you slide the ribbon cable in easily?

Someone must know, where I'm just guessing, but I hope this helps.

As for stuffing it all back together --- you're on your own.

[1121]

Thank you for your reply. Yes, I can load music onto the drive and access it in every way under iRiver firmware.

I have just tried pressing gently on those dimples, but unfortunately no change. There is also no way I could put the cable with blue ends there- just the white one and it just barely touches it and is not secure. I think there must be some way, because it wouldn't be logical to manufacture a drive like this...It seems as if the connector is simply fixed to the drive and there was no moving part, though...I will do some search anyway. Rockbox is all I need here. Thank you very much.

[AlexP]

When my drive was not properly connected, since there was no iRiver software to access on the drive, the bootloader would default to the iRiver firmware in the player itself (or so I guess), but nothing actually worked.

For the H100 and H300 there is no iriver firmware on the drive, it is all in flash.

[1121]

I haven't found the way to resolve my issue yet. I have found information on the forum here (mentioned by Linus himself) that ATA -32 error (or -11 probably), can be associated with a loose connection between a dougtherboard and motherboard. Do you think my iRiver could be affected by it, even though there is no problem running original firmware and accessing the drive with it?
Thank you.

Edit:

There is also no problem running Rockbox on the original hard drive...The problem occurs trying to boot it on the replaced Samsung drive.

An update. I have got a brand new drive (replaced with the same type, as the seller did not have other options, that is a 120GB Samsung: HS122JC) and right now it is as follows:

the new HDD is working fine (the previous one was obviously faulty with constant spinning and 'scratching' as it was turning on/off constantly). This one is working fine with no problems. I've reformatted it properly using SwissKnife (FAT32) and there is no problem booting, running and using my iHP-140 with the iRiver firmware. But when I install Rockbox I have got: ATA -32 error message, along with the Check HDD and plug in a USB cable. Could it really be a hardware failure issue, considering there is no problem using original firmware, no problem with the new HDD and no problem using Rockbox with my original HDD on the player? I would really like to run Rockbox on it. Any help/suggestions appreciated big time. Thank you.

[isanggon]

I used same zip to ata adaptor and succeed with mk8025gal on h120.

I had ATA -11 and ATA-32 errors occur when connector being loose. Heavly pressure can loose connector.

I cannot assemble correctly with that adator without any modification.
Without modification, ATA -11 and ATA-32 errors occur. Or h120 didn't power on.

I have to do 3 modification to re-assemble.

1. re-positioning rubber which placed on bottm of h120.
2. cut adaptor's pcb and connector to have minimum size.
3. cut some rubber which placed top of hdd

with this modifications, I can reassemble with that adaptor correctly.

h140 has much more space than h120 has. cutting rubbers or removing rubber is last choice.

I think samsung hdd is fine. The problem is having much pressure to adapter's connector.
Try to reassemble without much pressure to adapter's connector. Than your h140 will work.


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Correction :

1121,
I think, your problem was caused by exposed electrical contact area near the end of the cable. Try to using tape to that exposed area to insulation. with this, h140 need not any modification, I think.

[Flowah]

Can you post pictures of your modifications? I had been wondering if this was possible to do on the H120, and would like to see exactly how you did it. Also, which adapter did you use?

[isanggon]

I didn't made picture when I upgrade my h120. I attached horrible draw that made just ago.

I think this adaptor is the best choice and with this adaptor there need no modifications. but this is too expensive to pay.
http://esskabel.de/Produkte/Anschlussadapter/HDD-1.8-REV1/ADA-HDD-1.8-REV1-haupt.htm#ADA-HDD-1.8-ZIF-CF

I used this adaptor.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10887
This is very cheap and works fine. but too big for iriver. so needed modifications. There will be many modifications. I modified like attached drawings.

[Flowah]

Hmm, I think I understand your picture. And you say that the adapter you linked would fit better?
http://www.ak-data.de/grelle-shop-x/index2.htm

What exactly are the size specs, do you know? I think I can make out that it's about 30mm in length, 46mm in width, 2.54mm in height.

[isanggon]

Umm.. I measured my adapter and estimated es&s adapter's size. Result picture is attached.

And I changed my opinion.
http://www.ak-data.de/grelle-shop-x/index2.htm will perfectly fit on h120, when remove bottom rubber. without remove bottom rubber, that adapter will not fit without modification, either(but more easily than other adapter).

I think, the bottom rubber should be there. So if you use zip hdd, you'll need to modification to use that.

[st515O]

Has anyone tried  this mod on a H320? I'm considering trying it with a 5mm thick   samsung Spinpoint N2 series drive: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/products/downloads/HS10TJB.pdf     which are 7.5mm shorter than the factory iriver toshiba drives.    I already have a larger 2400mah battery which took some dremeling  to get to fit right (I still have the blue rubber and all),  so I'm very worried about   getting the deal extreme adapter + 5mm HD + 2400mah battery to fit.    If all else fails, I'm willing to try this:  http://www.stolltech.ch/iriver.pdf

[miner49er]

I, too, really want to upgrade my HD in my H320. Has anyone done this yet?

I would really like to make a larger leap to, say, at least 80Gig.

Please, can someone help me in my quest for more space?

thanks in advance.

[petur]

I do not think there will be enough room in the H3x0 to do this.... You might get an MK8007GAH if you want 80GB without adapter - works fine here
Or wait for 64/128GB CF cards to arrive

[miner49er]

I've read about that drive and it appears to be 8mm - I was under the impression that the H320 could only take drives of 5mm?

Also, it appears to be 50pin - I was also under the impression that the H320 was 40 pin?

I feel like I'm getting close to making a decision here...

[Chronon]

You are right about the thickness of the drive that comes in an H320, but the connector does have 50 pins.  Did you consult the HardDriveReplacement page?

[miner49er]

Okay, so it does use 50 pins.

So, I can, without a doubt, fit an 8mm drive into my H320, albeit with a bit of bodging? My conern is that I spend 80 quid on a drive (I've seen one on ebay) for 60gig drive and I can't use it!

Please help, I only have 1 day left!