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casainho:
Please give, discuss ideas here, just for the RockboxPlayerV1!

RockboxPlayerV1 project page:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxPlayerV1

RockboxPlayer general page:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxPlayer

The follow ideas were written on message: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6751.msg113183#msg113183

spark:
FYI: to use HDD in portable player you need to use the slim style (1.8") drives that are used in UMPCs. These are even smaller than laptop drives. I guess these don't come greater than 80GB to date.
http://www.hitachigst.com...9758db5deb4703e3aac4f0a0/

They are relatively expensive that 2.5" drives but still they are cheaper than flash. you could buy a 20GB slim drive for under $80

if we can support IDE interface then we can support both CF cards and HD Drive on the same electrical interface.

scharkalvin:
1.8" hard disks are more expensive that 2.5" laptop drives, but other than size they do not hold a big advantage for a use in a media player.  You can get 2.5" HDD's up to 160gb cheaply.  Using a 2.5" drive will require a larger case to put the player in, but savings in weight won't be that great over the 1.8" types.  Anyway, using a 2.5" HDD wouldn't be out of the question.  Also note that laptop drives are now going to SATA and this trend will spill over to the 1.8" size soon.

http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=414
http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=906

markun:
Why do you think that? I would expect CE-ATA to be the new standard for 1.8" drives. It's used in the 160GB version of the ipod classic.

spark:
HDD/CF interface
whether we go for 2.5" HDD due to lower cost or 1.8" HDD due to smaller size, we need an IDE interface.
the 9260 cpu has a CF controller which can be easily adapted for a HDD.
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/...rod_documents/doc6023.pdf

using SATA drives will only complicate the matter without any significant gains.

CF or SD flash
now since an IDE interface is allowing us to use CF and HDD, should we still stick to SD card for v1?

Llorean:
Please respect our forum guidelines: Use the modify button, don't post twice in a row.

casainho:

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Sorry, I know that. I tough there was no problem doing this in this case. I will merge the 2 messages and delete the last one.

Davide-NYC:
On the iRiver H1x0 series the line-in jack is also a TOSLINK lightpipe (SPDIF) jack. This allows for optical (digital) input without requiring an extra jack. I really like this design and believe that the h1x0 was the only consumer grade device to offer it. It was a good idea and would be of great benefit to recording enthusiasts.
Please add this feature to the RockboxPlayerV1 project page.

The line-out/optical output jack (on the other hand) is almost never used since I pull audio off of the DAP via USB.

My $0.02.

pondlife:
Responsing to Casainho's request on the ML, my personal priorities when choosing a hard disk-based player are (in order):

1) Runs Rockbox
2) Small physical size - pocketability
3) Tactile buttons (i.e. not touch sensitive)
4) High storage capaciity (80GB min)
5) Long runtime
6) Replacable battery

All other features (weight, colour screen, recording, radio) aren't so important to me.

Of the targets I've used, the Archos JBR was potentially the best, although it fails on (2).   The Iriver H300 is also very nice once upgraded to 80GB, but a little chunky, and fails on (6).

The Gigabeat was a disappointment to me purely because I find the touch sensitive controls hard to use.

Hope this input is of some use, and good luck.

pondlife

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