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Offline terrence1019

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Rockbox as an Application
« on: January 26, 2008, 06:28:06 AM »
I was reading Google Summer of Code 2008, and noticed an interest in porting Rockbox as an application. I think this is a smart idea. It might be especially effective in the new iPods (Touch, Phone, Classic) which support mini-programs and widgets.

I have to commend the Rockbox Team on their neverending goal to develop this project.  :)

Here is the link to a initial project for Rockbox as a 3rd part application: http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11349
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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 07:10:23 AM »
Indeed, and there is also already a thread on the motorola effort on these very forums!

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14165.0

I too would love to see Rockbox as an app.
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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 05:03:14 PM »
From the looks of things, Rockbox on the iPhone and the ipod Touch looks possible and promising  :D:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_touch#Third-party_applications

I might be able to buy an iPod Touch, and not worry about it having no Rockbox support!  ;D

Of course, with the dream of Rockbox on an iPod, comes the harsh reality of the hard work required to do it.  :)

UPDATE:

Here's an external link I discovered:

http://www.engadget.com/2...-iphone-sdk-for-february/


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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 11:07:59 AM »
If Rockbox were ported as an Application, would it be possible to have it in J2ME format as the KD Player?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kd_player
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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 11:28:52 AM »
Quote from: terrence1019 on August 29, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
If Rockbox were ported as an Application, would it be possible to have it in J2ME format as the KD Player?

No. J2ME would mean reimplementing everything, so you won't have rockbox anymore
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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 06:40:58 PM »
Quote from: gevaerts on August 29, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: terrence1019 on August 29, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
If Rockbox were ported as an Application, would it be possible to have it in J2ME format as the KD Player?

No. J2ME would mean reimplementing everything, so you won't have rockbox anymore

So in what format would it be ported to if it were to be ported as an application?
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 06:43:49 PM »
Quote from: terrence1019 on August 29, 2008, 06:40:58 PM
Quote from: gevaerts on August 29, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: terrence1019 on August 29, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
If Rockbox were ported as an Application, would it be possible to have it in J2ME format as the KD Player?

No. J2ME would mean reimplementing everything, so you won't have rockbox anymore

So in what format would it be ported to if it were to be ported as an application?

This question doesn't really make sense, so I'll just explain what rockbox as app means.  Its a way of compiling rockbox so that drivers are replaced with calls to the native operating system it runs on.  For instance, when you compile it under linux, you get calls to SDL, which are then translated into native API calls by libsdl. 
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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2008, 09:13:55 PM »
Quote from: saratoga on August 29, 2008, 06:43:49 PM
Quote from: terrence1019 on August 29, 2008, 06:40:58 PM
Quote from: gevaerts on August 29, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: terrence1019 on August 29, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
If Rockbox were ported as an Application, would it be possible to have it in J2ME format as the KD Player?

No. J2ME would mean reimplementing everything, so you won't have rockbox anymore

So in what format would it be ported to if it were to be ported as an application?

This question doesn't really make sense, so I'll just explain what rockbox as app means.  Its a way of compiling rockbox so that drivers are replaced with calls to the native operating system it runs on.  For instance, when you compile it under linux, you get calls to SDL, which are then translated into native API calls by libsdl. 

Is this how blackhawk got Rockbox to run on his cellphone?
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Offline LinusN

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 01:54:30 AM »
Quote from: terrence1019 on September 02, 2008, 09:13:55 PM
Is this how blackhawk got Rockbox to run on his cellphone?
Yes.
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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 05:10:06 AM »
I read the objective of the Project is to "Convert Rockbox to an application that runs on a Windows, Linux or Apple based cellphone, PDA, iPhone, or similar device..."

But will it be able to run on a Symbian Target, for example, the Nokia N95 or N96? Or is it not feasible?
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Offline GodEater

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 08:48:09 AM »
I looked into this a while ago - it appears there's an SDL port for Symbian, but the build environment is a complete swine to set up, so I got no further than that.

So in theory, yes, it could work on a Symbian device, but it would require someone to do a fair bit of work first.
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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 05:30:02 PM »
Quote from: GodEater on September 04, 2008, 08:48:09 AM
I looked into this a while ago - it appears there's an SDL port for Symbian, but the build environment is a complete swine to set up, so I got no further than that.

So in theory, yes, it could work on a Symbian device, but it would require someone to do a fair bit of work first.

Ahhhh I see.

Thanks for the head's up GodEater  :)

The theoretical feasibility is a spark of hope.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2008, 05:32:37 PM by terrence1019 »
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Offline nloewen

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2008, 09:47:15 AM »
as long as were turning it into an application, couldn't you make a version to run on a pc in place of windows media player?
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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2008, 12:01:28 PM »
Quote from: nloewen on September 06, 2008, 09:47:15 AM
as long as were turning it into an application, couldn't you make a version to run on a pc in place of windows media player?

The simulator already runs as an application on a PC.
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Offline terrence1019

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Re: Rockbox as an Application
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2008, 12:17:25 PM »
I actually like using it a bit more than Windows Media Player  ;D
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