iPod Video, sometimes only turns on on "reset"

[FaxX]

Hi People,

first of al, Rockbox really rulez..  it was the reason for me to by an iPod (Video 80)
It works really stable, I'd no hang up during playbay up to now...

But there is an issue, I don't know:

Sometimes my (off turned) iPod doesn't come up again on pressing the "set" key. I got to trigger the hard-wired reboot (holding set and menu for a while) then the "apple" appears and rockbox boots...
This only happens sometimes, usually when I haven't used my pod for a few days (3..4).
Battery-Capacity is not the Problem (happens independently of charging state).

Maybe a Problem with the bootloader ?

Thanks in advantage for helping...

Uwe

[Llorean]

In this state, it's Apple's in-flash bootloader that's controlling things. Not any Rockbox code. This problem has been known to happen with non-Rockboxed iPods too.

[FaxX]

Ok, thanks so far...

Thought something like this...  sh**  

The mysterious thing about this bug is: up to now, this always happened when I "parked" my iPod from rockbox...  But I've heard that Apples original FW doesnt turn off the iPod "really"...  It sends it to something like a sleep-mode...  (Don't know if it's possible to turn it really off from Apple FW)  
Guess thats the reason for that.

So it doesn't make sense to update the rockbox loader... I see.


Maybe this Question is wrong here... You spoke about "flash"... so this is updateable ?

Thank's Uwe

[Llorean]

Apple's firmware "Sleeps", but if you leave it in sleep long enough, it goes into what Apple causes "deep sleep". From "deep sleep" people have experienced this problem. Usually this takes a couple days of inactivity.

As for flash, yes, Apple could flash a new version of their bootloader, and that could in theory fix this.

[FaxX]

..ok, thanks so far.

"Apple could..." means, Apple doesnt ? ...

....some People told me: Use the "Update Your iPod" Feature of iTunes, but i guess this just updates the "booted" stuff on the harddrive. (..and for this I'd have to install iTunes, no way.)

So apple does just an standby on the system.

Mhh.. yes, this  happens always after a few days of inactivity.

Is there a possibility to find out the flash-code version ?

Thanks Uwe

[scharkalvin]

The update feature of iTunes CAN update the flash in the ipod.
I seem to recall reading that it was not possible to update an ipod mini
1g to a larger disk drive (CF card) unless a newer version of the firmware
was installed, probably because the boot loader in flash was also updated.

[FaxX]

Ok...  so far,

..is there something to think about when using the iTunes Update function on a boxed iPod ?  (...of course using it when the original apple stuff on the iPod is booted)

Are there problem's with the rockbox bootlader (on the hd) when using this iTunes feature ?

(sorry for this noob questions...  maybe there is a thread 'bout that, but i havent found it yet)

Uwe