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Offline pokeme444

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2008, 02:16:43 PM »
please do!
i will test if you want
can't type much or i'd do it myself
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Offline krisdb

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2008, 01:51:19 PM »
I just ran across these bug submission in the bug tracker.  

This one seems to be a similar issue, so maybe its not limited to the Sansa c200 build:

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5072

The only difference with mine and the 1st comment, is I cannot manually select the bookmark to resume, as my player hangs if I try that.

This one is also similar:
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8215

The issue seems to be auto-bookmarking using the File View and maybe its not so "subtle" and "rare" as has been previously hinted at.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2008, 02:03:16 PM by krisdb »
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Offline Lear

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2008, 04:29:06 PM »
Quote from: krisdb on February 06, 2008, 01:51:19 PM
I just ran across these bug submission in the bug tracker.  

This one seems to be a similar issue, so maybe its not limited to the Sansa c200 build:

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5072

The only difference with mine and the 1st comment, is I cannot manually select the bookmark to resume, as my player hangs if I try that.

The original bug is completely different (a known limitation in the bookmarking code), but the first comment is similar, yes. Don't understand why your player hangs though.

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This one is also similar:
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8215

Not really... :)

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The issue seems to be auto-bookmarking using the File View and maybe its not so "subtle" and "rare" as has been previously hinted at.

I think your case is a bit unusual in that not many users set Load Last Bookmark to yes and then go about deleting the files that would be resumed. That would explain why it hasn't been noticed before (that I've heard about at least).

Anyway, I think that it would be better to just load the selected file when the bookmarked file couldn't be found, at least with Load Last Bookmark set to yes. If set to ask, that could be a bit strange though...
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Offline krisdb

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2008, 05:28:43 PM »
I'm not saying those other bugs are exactly like the one I'm getting, I'm saying they are similar, in that they are having issues with bookmarking using the File Viewer.

Quote from: Lear on February 06, 2008, 04:29:06 PM
I think your case is a bit unusual in that not many users set Load Last Bookmark to yes and then go about deleting the files that would be resumed.

I don't bookmark a file, then delete the file.  I bookmark a file, then delete a different file in the same directory.  Usually a file I delete, I've previously bookmarked, but I've never deleted a file I intend to playback.
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Offline pokeme444

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2008, 01:21:34 AM »
im running sansa e200
it happen when I delete/add portions of audiobook split into 100+ files
moving it, renaming them...they nmo longer bookmark right
start at right time, then go to beginning
also sometimes after this bug starts it randomly skips some when playing sequentially for no reason
books will work, then not work later
sometimes when resuming bookmark while something else playing, player locks up& hard restart needed
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Offline pondlife

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2008, 04:15:11 AM »
If I understand correctly, part of the bookmark is the index of the file in the directory - e.g. "4th file in directory".  So if you delete or add files to a directory then any bookmark to files in that directory is no longer valid.

I guess we should be storing the filename rather than this index.  When resuming, if the filename is present in a bookmark, use that in preference to the index, so we maintain compatibility with old bookmarks.

pondlife
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Offline Lear

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2008, 11:01:54 AM »
Quote from: pondlife on February 07, 2008, 04:15:11 AM
If I understand correctly, part of the bookmark is the index of the file in the directory - e.g. "4th file in directory".  So if you delete or add files to a directory then any bookmark to files in that directory is no longer valid.

I guess we should be storing the filename rather than this index.  When resuming, if the filename is present in a bookmark, use that in preference to the index, so we maintain compatibility with old bookmarks.

It already works like this. Rockbox first checks the name of the indexed file. If the name (which is stored in the bookmark) doesn't match, the directory is searched for that file. If found, it is resumed, otherwise playback is not started.

The last bit is, as far as I can tell, the root cause for this thread. If Load Last Bookmark is set to yes, and the most recent bookmark for a directory refers to a file that doesn't exist, you can't play any file in that directory.
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Offline krisdb

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2008, 10:41:03 PM »
Quote from: Lear on February 07, 2008, 11:01:54 AM
The last bit is, as far as I can tell, the root cause for this thread. If Load Last Bookmark is set to yes, and the most recent bookmark for a directory refers to a file that doesn't exist, you can't play any file in that directory.

I can't speak for anyone else who maybe having this issue, but I guarantee, I never have a bookmark that refers to a file that I don't intend to playback.  That is, I would never click on a bookmark to a file that doesn't exists.  I do have bookmarks the refer to files that I've deleted, but I would never use those.

Just an update on the status, bookmarks completely do not work at all at this point.  They are created fine, I can see the timestamp from when they were created.  When I first boot up my Sansa in the morning and try to play the last bookmark, the WPS will show the empty ID3 info, then hang.  If I try to hold the power button down for 15s, I will get the message "Shutting down..." and it hangs again.  Holding down for another 15s will allow the player to reboot.  Upon rebooting, I am able to play files, but clicking on the latest bookmark doesn't work, nor does clicking on a file through the File Browser ("nothing to resume").  The only way to play files through the File Browser, is to manually add each file to a playlist, and then play them.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2008, 10:43:34 PM by krisdb »
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Offline Lear

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 12:57:18 AM »
Have you tried the Feb 11 (or later) daily build? It should only show the "Nothing to resume" message if you select a bookmark for a non-existing file in the bookmark selection screen.
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Offline krisdb

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Re: Can't play mp3s through 'Files' option (Sansa c200)
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2008, 09:35:39 AM »
Yeah, I get that message.  I'm not sure why I get it for brand new file I've added, but I get it.

Don't worry about this issue anymore, you can lock or close this thread if you want.  I'm guessing this probably won't get fixed anytime soon and I've sorta gotten used to it.  I just manually add each new file to a playlist.  The only thing that really sucks, is that the bookmarks don't work at all, but I can see the timestamp when they were created, and I just manually fast-forward to that position.

Thanks for, at least responding, so I know it not any easy issue to fix.

PS: I love Llorean!
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