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iPod 5G Video: Rockbox AND Apple Firmware without iTunes Plan

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soap:
Most all those errors are a result of not allowing the iTunes replacement programs to copy the files into Apple's directory structure themselves.
The 5th gen (at least) does not like the directory structure you are attempting to use.

jamoiholland:

--- Quote from: soap on January 18, 2008, 11:40:59 AM ---Most all those errors are a result of not allowing the iTunes replacement programs to copy the files into Apple's directory structure themselves.
The 5th gen (at least) does not like the directory structure you are attempting to use.

--- End quote ---
That's a bummer. All my files reside in /iPod_Control/Music/Artist/etc, and with no particular reason for choosing which files, the DB generation hasn't worked for some. The ones that work however, have all the ID3 info in tact, so they have had correct entries inserted into the iPod DB? If the other files did also would they not work too? The ones that work that have correct DB entries surely prove that the 5G can't be completely rejecting the directory structure?

blueskip:
It sounds like you are attempting the same thing I originally attempted.  I don't think it's possible either.  But if you find a way to make it possible by all means let others know.  I'm anxious to hear from anyone that figures this out.  

I finally decided to dump apple altogether.  I'm still working with MediaMonkey to make mine work without apple for playlist creation and such.  You can view any devices folders and files in MediaMonkey making it easy to create playlists and other stuff just like Apple.  You just have to be careful because MediaMonkey is also compatible with apple playlists and file structure if you set it up to work that way, which is basically the same as using iTunes.  In other words if you don't set it up to view all of the FILES on the device, it will by default view just like apple does and synch just like apple does with the freaky structured folders and file names.  

So it will work both ways.  But to my knowledge it still won't do what you're trying to do, which is to combine the two unless I misunderstand.  

My device is completely drag'n'drop at this point and I'm still not sure I'm satisfied but I'm getting there little by little.  

jamoiholland:
Interesting, its obviously a problem to which many people would like a solution. Rockbox has fantastically given a way to get out of using iTunes already, we're only really talking about having problems when wanting to use the original firmware at the same time, whilst having your own logical directory structure. Its an Apple problem than a Rockbox problem (unsurprisingly!) I'll keep on digging, try some iPod forums maybe, will certainly post straight away if I get it to all work reliably!!

polygonal:
I think the apple OF is fine with /ipod_control/music/artist/blah.blah.blah structure, but the main problem is the path length is limited to some 64 characters (or something like that), and that is very easily gone over. Try a few files with shorter path length like /ipod_control/music/artist/a/a.mp3 and see if you can get it to work. I personally had some success with foodop with foobar2000 (I use a tagging software to truncate the filename if neccesary).

After a while, though, I'm dumping the OF altogether, and next time I have time to revamp my folder structure, I'll put everything propertly in /Music, not /ipod_control/music.

Hope that helps

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