UISimulator

[Mmmm]

I am able to compile the code but I dont know how to use the simulator. I assume that when compiling you have to choose a simulator build but what then? Are there any instructions about this? I couldn't find any on the WIKI.

[tucoz]

Have you had a look at this page?
http://www.rockbox.org/docs/uisimulator.html

[Mmmm]

Aha.. thanks Tukoz the one place i didnt look was in the docs!

So just to get this straight.... i need to
i) download the uisimulator folder using CVS
ii) compile as usual but choose simulator build
iii) instead of 'make zip' to create the zip file i type 'make install'
iv) fill up the subdirectory with music, jpgs cfg files etc
v) type rockboxui in the compiled directory

and i'm away... does this sound right?

[AlexP]

Aha.. thanks Tukoz the one place i didnt look was in the docs!

So just to get this straight.... i need to
i) download the uisimulator folder using CVS
ii) compile as usual but choose simulator build
iii) instead of 'make zip' to create the zip file i type 'make install'
iv) fill up the subdirectory with music, jpgs cfg files etc
v) type rockboxui in the compiled directory

and i'm away... does this sound right?

Yep, that's it - I've just tried it myself (it must be fairly easy then!) and it's fantastic to be able to see my WPS and fiddle without repeatedly connecting and disconnecting my iRiver!

[Mmmm]

Brilliant... I cant wait to get home and try it then... now for a bit of clock watching................

[Mmmm]

OK, I've tried it and it seems to be alright but it doesn't actually play the files, it just sits there at 0.00. Ffd and rwd work fine but it won't progress through the track on its own!

What have i done wrong? I chose win32 because i'm running windows, is that right?

 

[AlexP]

I also selected Win32 for Windows, and likewise it doesn't actually play the track - I suspect it's something to do with the simulator not having the capacity to access your hardware.  It shows Ffd and Rwd fine though, probably just simulating what would happen without actually playing it.

I must stress, all the above is a guess!  Maybe someone with more in depth knowledge (perhaps Daniel Stenberg, I seem to remember him saying he wrote it - sorry if wrong) could explain what it actually does?

[Bagder]

Yes, I wrote the initial (and most other) X11 parts of it. I also recently added the music playback abilities to the X11 (linux/cygwin) version. I don't run windows and I don't develop on windows so win32 things is generally beyond me.

If it doesn't play sound for you, then start figuring out why and fix it!

Things don't always fix themselves by magic you know.

[Mmmm]

I don't develop on windows so win32 things is generally beyond me.

oh...that's a shame..

If it doesn't play sound for you, then start figuring out why and fix it!

Believe me, if its beyond you then I really dont have even the faintest inkling of a chance !;)

I don't suppose thare is any possible way of using the X11 parts on windows is there?

Now I just know that was a silly question!

Maybe the time has come to dump windows!

[Mmmm]

I also have a couple more questions....

Is it possible to simulate the hold button?
Is it possible to simulate plugging in the charger?
and finally how does it decide on the battery level and can I change it?

[kenshin]

I don't run windows and I don't develop on windows so win32 things is generally beyond me.

You're not the only one. Count me in, too...

Is it possible to simulate the hold button?

I trust you are wondering about this for WPS purposes? If so, put your image in the "else" condition for the test then switch it into the "if" condition when you're happy.

Is it possible to simulate plugging in the charger?

I trust you are wondering about this for WPS purposes? If so, put your image in the "else" condition for the test then switch it into the "if" condition when you're happy.

and finally how does it decide on the battery level and can I change it?

It seems to be always on battery level 3. Change it? Patch the simulator code.

[Lear]

The Win32 simulator is capable of playing sound (though the support isn't complete, it should be at the same level as the X11 simulator), but it won't build with that support by default; you have to edit autoconf.h first.

Still, as long as the codecs are properly installed, it should "play", and not be stuck at 0:00, but it can take a little while for it to start.

[Mmmm]

Lear : are you saying that i have to edit autoconf.h first or that it should play if I wait a bit?

Do you know what I have to change in autoconf.h?

Kenshin: Thanks, that answers my questions. I suppose if it wasn't for WPS purposes I'd have to patch the sim code to get these things working would I?

[AlexP]

If it doesn't play sound for you, then start figuring out why and fix it!

Things don't always fix themselves by magic you know.

I would if I could, believe me.  The extent of my programming skills are limited VB.  I was guessing that the playback capability wasn't there, not complaining it wasn't.

The Win32 simulator is capable of playing sound (though the support isn't complete, it should be at the same level as the X11 simulator), but it won't build with that support by default; you have to edit autoconf.h first.

That's interesting.  Given my non existant programming, I'll wait until someone else pokes around then hopefully tells me how to do it.  I certainly have the relevent codecs as sound (mp3/ogg etc) plays on my computer otherwise.

[Lear]

Lear : are you saying that i have to edit autoconf.h first or that it should play if I wait a bit?

It should play (i.e., not stay at 0:00) if you wait (not very long, a couple of seconds or so, IIRC). You need to edit autoconf.h to actually hear something.

Do you know what I have to change in autoconf.h?

#define ROCKBOX_HAS_SIMSOUND

It's there already though #undef:ed.