Fixed.

[Rydian]

I'm on windows 2000.
C250, 2 gig model, V1.
1.00.04 is my official firmware version.

It is an american version.

For the model number, I see two stickers with info under the battery.
The first says "Sansa c200B0612072833", and the second says "BE0612MXF".  Both stickers have bar codes.

So I download the rockbox utility.  I see two major versions, a QT 1, and a normal 3.  I try the normal 3 first, and it tells me it cannot detect my player.  I Look through the list, and it only lists the e200, not the c200.

So I try the QT one.  It looks more up to date, with more options, and although it cannot autodetect my player, I'm able to select it in the list and tell it it's mounted as F:/.

However, I cannot install rockbox.

When I try the quickstart complete installation, it gives me an HTTP error 1129270319.  Twice.  I am using a router.

So I try the other installation type (since I read something about the automated full install being wonky), and it tells me my bootloader is already up to date.  I never tried installing rockbox before, though... it asks me if I really want to install it.  I say yes.  In the status window, it says it's starting, then it says "unsupported install method".

I have tried putting my player into MSC mode as well, and restarting the utility, with no change.

Oddly enough, the sansa official firmware updater fails to update the firmware, giving me an unspecified error, and theiur tech support was of no help, telling me to upgrade to XP and use windows media player 10/11...

Is something wrong with my player? D:


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EDIT3: So I went into the options of the QT version and set it to use no proxy.  And then it was able to download and install rockbox and the fonts correctly, and even a theme.

However, I tried to use it to uninstall rockbox (to try to start over), and it told me it did it successfully, but the files and .rockbox directory is still there...

However, I still cannot get the bootloader installed.
Sansapatcher.exe from the manual will not run, I get a generic error that it needs to close as soon as it starts.

[AlexP]

You have a v1 so rockbox will run fine.

Win2k should be fine, I believe sansapatcher requires an NT like operating system.  Still, why not just try?  Worse possible case it just wont work, nothing will happen to your DAP.

[Rydian]

Alright, thank you. ^^

EDIT: First post modified.

EDIT2: First post modified.  Again.

[AlexP]

It gets really quite confusing if you go back to edit an earlier post with new information after someone has replied.

I am now slightly confused as to what has and hasn't worked.  Have you ever had the bootloader installed?

Have you run sansapatcher with administrator privileges?  Is the error you get the standard windows this program has experienced an error and needs to close type thing?  If so, is there any way you could try on an XP machine?

[Rydian]

Ah, I took the parts out of my original post that don't apply anymore, in order to make reading it easier.  Too bad I suck at formatting things correctly.

No, I have never gotten the bootloader installed, even though the QT utility has told me multiple times it's already installed.  It is not installed.

I have tried it logged on to an administrator account, with no changes.

"sansapatcher.ex.exe has generated errors and will be closed by Windows.  You will need to restart the program.

An error log is being created."

... .ex.exe?  I swear that's what it says.  That's really odd.

Also, I do not have an XP machine, and ever bothered getting a copy of XP, as this thing only has a 475mhz processor. ^^;

[zajacattack]

Could you post the error log?

[Rydian]

I actually would have if I knew that those things actually generated error logs. XD

Where would it be?  It's certainly not in the same directly.

[zajacattack]

Here, http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2000/AdminTips/TroubleShooting/Windows2000CommonProblemsandGotchas.html, is a supposed solution to your problem.

[Rydian]

Er.
Which one?

There's like 50 in that list, and nothing containing "error" seemed to apply.  Yes, there was the add/remove programs thing, but that's not the issue.

[zajacattack]

You could always try on another computer to see if that works...

[Rydian]

Yeah, except that I just moved here, have made no new friends yet (I work at home so I don't get out much), my old ones moved away, and my only spare computer ran 98 and now refuses to boot off external media, so until I get a new one, or perhaps a floppy to flash the bios, I have no spare.

[Rydian]

Alright, I have an XP machine to use, and...

Still cannot install bootloader.  It can't autodetect my sansa (no matter if it's in MSC mode or not), but if I mount it manually it can install rockbox, but I'm still getting told the bootloader is up to date...

EDIT: The clarify, it tells me "no sansa found", both when trying to install and remove the bootloader.

I have upgraded to the latest official firmware.

[Strife89]

This might be a little more involved than you would like, but you could probably install Xubuntu (a light-load version of Ubuntu) and try to install Rockbox through that OS. In Ubuntu, I have had no problems doing so with the very Sansa model you're working with.

If you're interested, go download a Live CD image of Xubuntu 7.10 at http://www.xubuntu.org/get#gutsy . Be aware: it's a ~560MB download, and you must have a program that can burn .iso files ready. (IMGBurn is wonderful freeware for this: http://www.imgburn.com/ ) After that, enter your BIOS setup and put your CD-ROM drive at the top of your boot sequence, then boot from the CD. Xubuntu will load a workable desktop, but won't touch your hard drive(s) until you tell it to install (or acess it manually with the file browser). Installation is fairly fast and very easy; and you can keep Windows 2000 for a dual-boot setup if you want.

If you can do all that, try the Linux versions of the Rockbox tools and hope it works.

[Rydian]

Psh, like I'm going to try a *buntu livecd.
I've got knoppix and DSL and puppy and various other GUI-less ones, I'll try it with knoppix first when I get the chance.

Even running xubuntu off the harddrive is a chore on this machine, and I would not recommend an *ubuntu livecd to anybody for any reason other than to use the graphical installer, if it even came to that.

EDIT: Alright.  The XP machine wasn't mine and was in use, so I had to use my machine.  I forgot there's soemthing odd with the motherboard, and the standard 2.6 versions of the linux kernal used by xubuntu and knoppix don't work with my PS/2 mouse, anmd I don't have a USB one.  I could have used text command, but even with a 1 gig swap partition I've set up previously, navigating the web and such was a chore with the keyboard.
So I changed to puppy, because I can't find my DSL CD right now.
And wow, it reminded me just how much puppy has to suck to fit in 50 megs. XD  After wrestling with it's odd window manager and icon system for maybe 10 minutes, I finally got the bootloader installer to work.  And work it did.
My player is FINALLY rockbox'd.  And it was actually worth it.  The ability to turn off that blinding-as-hell (yet preyy) set of blue LEDs o the menu buttons is worth it.  Also, better screen control and such, too.  I can deal with the less than ahlf battery life.

[AlexP]

I can deal with the less than ahlf battery life.

Eh?  Where did you get this from?  We are fast approaching the Sansa claimed runtime on the E200, and I'm going to assume that the C200 is similar or not much worse (I suspect pixelma will be able to confirm/correct me), but either way you should much more than half battery life, not less.