"Rockbox Media Player" Detected in Windows XP Hardware Wizard, Can't Access Play

[Spoonman]

sry ;-) but i´m austrian and scool is decades ago...

[Llorean]

Yes, but it's easy to use real words like "sorry" and "you" instead of "sry" and "u", especially since the forum guidelines say you must, and thus it's implicit that you'll be asked to leave if you refuse to follow them.

[kuehly]

Anyway...

Has anyone a copy of the rockbox version before the half-implemented USB stack came in? For an iPod nano 2nd gen? Please?

Rockbox is really great. But it's totally annoying to have to follow some bizarre procedure with a lot of button fiddling to put some files on the ipod! The old behaviour (rebooting to apple's disk mode) was probably not brilliant, but it worked perfectly for me.

Btw: My ipod seems to simply hang up when I plug it in. Black screen, needs revival using Menu+Select.

Oh, and using the old-fashioned "stable version" and "developer version" paradigm works for most other open source projects, so it can't be that bad.

(I hope I'm not thrown out after my first post   )

[AlexP]

Rockbox does not run on the nano 2nd gen.

[bascule]

The old behaviour (rebooting to apple's disk mode) was probably not brilliant, but it worked perfectly for me.

I don't believe that has changed at all. Rebooting to disk mode is still the only way to transfer files...

[AlexP]

Yes, but it used to do it automatically, apparently it is a bit hit and miss now.

[safetydan]

Oh, and using the old-fashioned "stable version" and "developer version" paradigm works for most other open source projects, so it can't be that bad.

You do realise that all versions of Rockbox are considered "developer versions" right? Well apart from the 2.5 release for Archos targets. We'd love to offer a stable version for iPod and other targets but we're not there yet.

[MarcGuay]

You do realise that all versions of Rockbox are considered "developer versions" right?

I think he's saying that it would be nice if this weren't so, and a stable release was available like "most other open source projects".

[kuehly]

You do realise that all versions of Rockbox are considered "developer versions" right?

I think he's saying that it would be nice if this weren't so, and a stable release was available like "most other open source projects".

Yep. Precisely that.

And I have an iPod Mini 2nd gen. Sorry, been a bit confused...  

If you want to have only developer versions: Well, it's your work, you're giving it away for free, and that's really great, so: Do it the way you like. I definitely do not want to critize the developers. It's your project.

Maybe an archive for old binaries would be a good solution. Hard disk space is really cheap today, so this shouldn't be a big problem. With an archive, I could switch back to the version before the USB stack and be perfectly happy. Unfortunately I can't find the version of the initial install anywhere and this was my first update, so I'm stuck with the current build.

Anyway, Rockbox is much much much better than the original OS, which pauses my iPod every few seconds because it doesn't like my new headphones. So, keep on the good work!

[safetydan]

My point was more that the iPod (and other) builds have never been stable. They've always had warnings about being development builds. You've installed it your own risk. When we solve problems like the USB stack and some others, then we'll spin off a stable release which will be bug fixes only. So it's not that we're ignoring the usual stable/developer build split, it's just that we've never reached a point we consider "stable".

As for older builds, around a month of builds are kept (see here http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipodmini2g) but if you need an older build you'll have to check out the source from that date (which you can do using Subversion) and build your own.

[Llorean]

Yeah, the suggestion that there be a "Stable Release" to an extent requires that the build be "Finished" first. The iPod build is still working toward that point, the USB stack being a feature necessary for "finishedness" in a way (with the goal of Rockbox being a replacement firmware, it shouldn't be dependent on any bits of the original firmware, if it's really to be a full "release" state).

Of course, this is a philosophical point, but if we're talking "Release" then we may as well be honest: Rockbox on iPod isn't "done" yet. Battery life issues, performance issues, no USB mode of its own.