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Offline Kasperl

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Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« on: December 04, 2007, 03:17:51 PM »
First post ever here, so I apologize if I am treading well worn ground. My question is quite simple. I am looking to hook my Sansa E260 up with the Rockbox firmware that is currently available. The reason I am even looking into this is the undeniable fact that it seems the default factory OS had to be programmed by a sadist. In between undeletable files and mandatory multiple reformats, one gets just a little irritated. When I install the rockbox firmware onto the player will these flaws from the original player carry over? I am not intending to play video games or even store pictures, all I want is to simply be able to play music and not have to completely reformat the bastard every week because the files magically became currupt despite the fact that it was working only five minutes ago.

TL;DR Will the flaws of the factory OS carry over onto Rockbox?

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This morning I had 444 fully functioning audio files. As of 1:30 this afternoon al but 20 are unplayably currupt. Meaning I'll have to do my sixth or seventh reformat since getting my SECOND Sansa e260 straight from the factory floor.
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Offline safetydan

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Re: Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 03:23:14 PM »
Files generally don't corrupt themselves. Are you unmounting or "Safely Removing" your Sansa before unplugging it? If you don't, this could lead to filesystem corruption.
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Offline Kasperl

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Re: Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 03:30:14 PM »
As far as I understand it, yes I am using the safely remove function. Another odd quirk that the 4 Gig model has that between powerups files will become currupt. In some odd and very rare cases they will just as magically become no longer currupt. As mentioned in the post script, I had charged my e260 and removed it this morning. From 10:00am until a little after noon I used it and it functioned normally. However, when reactivated at  about 1:30pm all but about 20 files suddenly became currupt and unplayable. This is the worst thing to happen on my second model so far.
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Offline safetydan

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Re: Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 03:31:46 PM »
It sort of sounds like a hardware problem. If it is a hardware problem, then Rockbox will suffer the same issue. If it's not a hardware problem, then Rockbox might help you.
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Offline Kasperl

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Re: Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 03:33:40 PM »
Any ideas on what I could do to solve this problem? If we go by Amazon reveiws, I am about one of sixty or so users to have this problem. It is also my understanding that this issue seems to be limited to the 4 gig e260 model and is almost unheard of on the higher and lower capacity models.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2007, 03:41:34 PM by Kasperl »
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Offline Kasperl

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Re: Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 07:01:28 PM »
Here is a small essay I have written for the kind folks at Sansa outlining every problem that I have dealt with the e260. It's a little long, however, it's the most comprehensive list of the flaws this model has had to my knowledge. I apologize that it isn't pertinent to the subject at hand however, it may come handy down the road.

There are several issues I have had to deal with the E260 model. First, at random the player will freeze and cannot be shut off without removing the battery. Next, when used in the USB format that allows drag and drop file transfer, prolonged exposure to this mode causes files to show up on the LCD screen as a "bad track", which I think means corrupted file. Additionally, dragging and dropping folders, not individual files, seems to also start this. Upon going up to the music storage folder, attempts to delete any file are futile. Files claim to be in some sort of state that denies me the power to delete them. If that wasn't enough, these files will in turn replicate and spawn three mysterious folders that have no end to nothing in them and also cannot be deleted. Attempts to use cut and paste to remove files is also ineffective as it acts as a COPY and paste instead. That is not the end.
The previous process can and will continue for ages. As an alternate means of self torture you can switch to the alternate USB mode. In this mode you can sync files using windows media player, an added bonus is that now you have add music file by file and if the sync device thinks a song is a different title or a unworkable type you are schist out of luck. Anyways, the first flaw in this route is that you give up the ability to remove single files as the sync program can only put on and not remove them, at least for me using the latest windows media player. Even so, the files will eventually become "bad songs" and no longer play despite the fact that they were working a moment before. Interrupting the train of thought, between shut-downs files can and will become corrupt. To confuse things even more, sometimes corrupted files magically decorrupt themselves between this period. In any case, following either route gets you to the final stage of the products derangement. One day you will try to turn it on. It will flash the Sansa logo at the startup and then the screen turns shade of purple similar to a bruise. At this point you now have a paperweight because it won't work, and you can't turn it off either unless you remove the battery. I went through all these stages with my first e260 and I fear I'll have to go though them again.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2007, 07:05:26 PM by Kasperl »
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Sansa E200 Firmware and Rockbox: Which has priority?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 07:04:13 PM »
1) Please read our forum guidelines, especially the bit about posting multiple times in a row without receiving responses. The edit command is there for a reason.

2) Frankly, "What the original firmware does" is off topic and irrelevant here.

If the original firmware is causing the problem, using Rockbox will help avoid it. Rockbox is entirely from our own code, so it won't suffer software problems that the OF does. That being said, Rockbox doesn't have its own USB mode yet on Sansas, so you'll have to go into the original firmware for USB.

If it's a hardware problem, Rockbox can't fix it.
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