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1) What is so hard about taking a little time to point the user in the right direction(s) rather than just telling him that he shouldn't post here?
3) An excellent point. Then, why not start a sticky that explains how to effectively search and point the user to that?
Directing someone who is lost is better than just telling him he is lost, wouldn't you say?
4) No, it is unacceptable for one to be irresponsible. However, ASSUMING one is or will be responsible is a problem.
ASSUMING one has read the TOS and/or guidelines is a bad idea.
Also, the mods are sometimes hypocritical. It is OK to say BL (for bootloader), OF (original firmware), mods (moderators), admins (administrators), etc., but when someone says "thx" or "u" or "4", it's the end of the world because they're "breaking the TOS."
You're arguably the most obnoxious and consistently irrelevant poster in that forum though. It'd be one thing if you'd had a few bad posts, but by my count, I ended up deleting something like 30-40 of your posts over the span of months, mostly because they just asked something that had already been explained, didn't ask or say anything, or just plain didn't make sense. Seems to me the problem is you posting in that forum, not us deleting your posts. I'm sorry you don't like it, but deleting contentless posts keeps threads from becoming unreadable.
but according to you a few posts ago, we shouldn't ever expect anyone to actually read it, correct?
So you would rather us expect the worst from the people instead of the best?
We assume that because they told us they did by hitting the button. Should we instead assume people are lying?
These are accepted abbreviations. Surely you wouldn't say "Central Processing Unit" every single time you are referring to a CPU.
How is it our job to teach them basic skills like "how to type something in the 'search' box"?
http://www.rockbox.org/tw...view/Main/ProjectGlossary
Since when is it your job to be unhelpful? Aren't mods supposed to help>
For one thing, it's not just that. I've asked questions and have been trying to contribute for a while now; however, I am often times simply scolded at for asking or suggesting ideas.
Any help I offer is shot down. Could you explain why?
Also, I believe the rules for this debate was to be respectful, like the TOS says, yet you are not abiding by that. Hypocrite!
You honestly want me to believe that the ability to type something in Google is something you expect us to explain to users on a regular basis? Or hitting Ctrl+F or equivalent in their PDF viewer? Do you expect us to give explanations for every possible method they could read our manual, in every type of software that can interpret HTML, PDF, tex, and raw text? Searching is a basic computer use skill, far, far below "Installing an alternative firmware on your MP3 player."
It'd be kind of hard for me to be both respectful and truthful here.
That could lead to less cluttering of the forums and less work for the mods. Why are you so against this?
Because "How to search" is not a Rockbox question. The internet is FULL of information about how to search if someone wants to know it. Of course, they'd have to search. They'd also have to search to find it here. What good does repeating the information do, if the only people it would help are the people who wouldn't read it in the first place?
I had a link to the famous "How to ask questions the smart way" essay in my signature for over a year. Yet many of the people I conversed with showed no evidence of ever reading it. Wouldn't "How to ask questions" be even more important than "How to search"?
QuoteYou're arguably the most obnoxious and consistently irrelevant poster in that forum though. It'd be one thing if you'd had a few bad posts, but by my count, I ended up deleting something like 30-40 of your posts over the span of months, mostly because they just asked something that had already been explained, didn't ask or say anything, or just plain didn't make sense. Seems to me the problem is you posting in that forum, not us deleting your posts. I'm sorry you don't like it, but deleting contentless posts keeps threads from becoming unreadable.I believe the rules for this debate was to be respectful, like the TOS says, yet you are not abiding by that. Hypocrite!
QuoteYou're arguably the most obnoxious and consistently irrelevant poster in that forum though. It'd be one thing if you'd had a few bad posts, but by my count, I ended up deleting something like 30-40 of your posts over the span of months, mostly because they just asked something that had already been explained, didn't ask or say anything, or just plain didn't make sense. Seems to me the problem is you posting in that forum, not us deleting your posts. I'm sorry you don't like it, but deleting contentless posts keeps threads from becoming unreadable.Another thing. I believe you are forgetting that I did end up being the first to get e200tool to work on Windows, and that I was the first to rockbox my e280R in Windows. I'm not trying to brag; I'm simply pointing out that I would never had done that had it not been for some of the questions I asked in that thread.
QuoteIt'd be kind of hard for me to be both respectful and truthful here.Then, why do you expect that of the users of the forum?
Quote from: zajacattack on November 27, 2007, 08:23:15 PMQuoteIt'd be kind of hard for me to be both respectful and truthful here.Then, why do you expect that of the users of the forum?I don't.
Yes, but you could just as well have figured out a way to compile that program if you hadn't spent months annoying the rest of us.
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