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scorche:
Why would he get yelled at for doing what the "mod" told him to do?
--- Quote ---If you're interested, read those links, find people who are interested, gather information about a new port and then start a new thread.
--- End quote ---

I see this as being very frank, informative, and nice.

zajacattack:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9263.0
Back to the e200R post. Bagder said, "I got this amusing idea!" You will notice, he was never corrected about that, yet when someone else has an idea a little far fetched, they are instantly hounded upon.

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10964.0
This shows the favoritism many of the mods hold. This man only says it "would be great" for a port, which is against the rules; however, because he is with the "Zune Linux Project", he was not corrected, but, rather, accepted. What is this? It's OK for mods and administrators and those of importance to break the rules, but not us?

Llorean:
In response to the first link:
Bagder is a very experienced developer. His "amusing" idea was amusing because it was clever, not because it was silly or technically lacking. And in fact was very close to what we had to do finally to install it. It was a very good idea, but you seem to have pounced on the word "amusing" to think that it reduces its value. There was actually *nothing* far fetched about his idea, it was a logical conclusion based on almost all previous research.

In response to link #2:
He didn't say "It would be great." He said "We're working on this already, and would be interested in working with you guys or seeing if you guys want to work with us." It's very different to say "We have a project interested in collaborating" than "This idea is great, YOU should do it."

zajacattack:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13913.0
This thread shows just how unhelpful some mods, experts, etc. are (not to specifically rip on Chronon). Another user actually had to answer this person's question because the supposed "expert" didn't offer much help.

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13871.0
Instead of being told a good spot to look, he was told to "read the manual." If you really want to be open to all users, as you claim, why do you assume that every user knows the TOS, forum guidelines, and what the manual, wiki, etc. are?

Llorean:
1) So you're saying "If an expert doesn't immediately know the answer, and tries to find out more information so that they CAN be helpful, this too is bad?"

2) We assume they know what they are because when signing up for the forums they click a button that says "I agree" in response to a list of instructions that tell them the rules are enforced. So either they lied when clicking that button, or if they really are telling the truth, they do know what all these things are before they posted, or their first posts should be asking where they can find them. Are we supposed to assume our users are liars then, is that your current suggestion?

Your criticisms are all well and good, but honestly, at this point it seems like you're just trying to make things up. I don't see how you can honestly find fault in Chronon's response at all. And while BigBambi wasn't providing the most useful amount of information, it is *extremely* valuable to users to be able to find their own information. I mean the manual link IS on every page. If a user can't find that, or use basic problem solving skills to gather information, it's going to provide more problems later on for them and everyone who has to interact with them here.

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