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Offline Sherv

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2007, 02:10:57 PM »
Quote from: LambdaCalculus379 on November 29, 2007, 08:20:38 AM
Charging works beautifully on my iPod video. I hooked it to my Linux box at home and my PC here at work (Windows XP SP2). Both PCs detect it and allow charging to start.

Soon comes the day when we can say "au revoir" to the Apple firmware! :)

That day can't come soon enough :)

So can you tell me what is the display on the screen when your ipod is charging that way? I just got a new 5.5g iPod video and charging it has been a bit confusing to me, seeing as there seem to be many different ways to do so. Thanks man!
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Offline LambdaCalculus

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2007, 02:23:23 PM »
The battery icon animates on the status bar, but the USB logo doesn't come up. It doesn't attempt to reboot into Disk Mode, either.
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Offline Sherv

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2007, 02:42:01 PM »
Ah, ok, then holding menu and plugging the USB cable in seems to do the exact same thing. Thanks!

I really need to get a wall charger, USB charging is awfully slow (coming from an iAudio X5).
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Offline LambdaCalculus

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2007, 02:45:23 PM »
Quote from: Sherv on December 04, 2007, 02:42:01 PM
I really need to get a wall charger, USB charging is awfully slow (coming from an iAudio X5).

Apple sells the chargers for about $30 a pop. I recommend getting one.

Speaking of the iAUDIO X5, Sherv... I'm looking around for one. Do you know anywhere that may still have some left? (PM me; don't respond back on the thread so we don't clutter it. :))
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Offline GuitarRocker2562

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 05:07:23 PM »
Quote from: LambdaCalculus379 on December 04, 2007, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: Sherv on December 04, 2007, 02:42:01 PM
I really need to get a wall charger, USB charging is awfully slow (coming from an iAudio X5).

Apple sells the chargers for about $30 a pop. I recommend getting one.

Speaking of the iAUDIO X5, Sherv... I'm looking around for one. Do you know anywhere that may still have some left? (PM me; don't respond back on the thread so we don't clutter it. :))

Or if you are like me and owned a 1st, and 3rd Gen. iPod, you already have a charger, its just much bigger and uses firewire.
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Offline Serenity

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2007, 10:17:26 AM »
Quote from: LambdaCalculus379 on December 04, 2007, 02:45:23 PM
Apple sells the chargers for about $30 a pop. I recommend getting one.

Actually, I saw a Kodak brand USB charger for $10 at the local Target store, and Wal-Mart has a slimline 2-USB charger for $15. Would these work or does the iPod have "special needs"?
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Offline melancholydm

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2007, 10:40:57 AM »
the plug for the ipod is different... so you need a ipod specific charger
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Offline GodEater

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2007, 10:50:39 AM »
Not if the charger accepts the end of the iPod cable he doesn't... (i.e. the standard USB plug).
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Offline Multiplex

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2007, 12:58:06 PM »
Quote from: GodEater on December 12, 2007, 10:50:39 AM
Not if the charger accepts the end of the iPod cable he doesn't... (i.e. the standard USB plug).
I don't have an iPod so no personal experience but this stuck in my mind for some reason;
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13322.msg100702#msg100702

It seems that the iPod charger is not so simple...
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Offline gigman

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2007, 01:43:14 PM »
Quote from: LambdaCalculus379 on December 04, 2007, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: Sherv on December 04, 2007, 02:42:01 PM
I really need to get a wall charger, USB charging is awfully slow (coming from an iAudio X5).

Apple sells the chargers for about $30 a pop.

are you kidding me? you could get the same charger for around five at frys
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Offline TexasRockbox

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2007, 04:00:51 PM »
The "System" -> "Rockbox sytem" screen shows
1. "Charging" when plugged in and charging.
2. "100%" and time remaining when full
3. Just shows a remaining time when not charging

I have the Apple charger.  Probably paid too much but it keeps everything all in the family.
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Offline Oppaunke

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2007, 04:13:39 AM »
Since the new USBStack (whatever that is...) is in place, I noticed that uploading music or firmware to my ipod nano is way slower when the rockbox-firmware is active than under apple-firmware. It is not like a USB1.1 to 2.0 comparison  but well noticeable. I don't know whether or not it was that slow before, since I didn't notice the difference then.

I'm also experiencing difficulties connecting the device to my PC in order to let it recognize the ipod at all. It usually takes 4-7 attempts to connect the device until it boots up in disk mode allowing me to access it while charging. But sometimes it suddenly works by the first attempt (as it was the case before the USB Stack-upgrade). I couldn't find out what's special about those cases. I always guessed it could be the cable/connector but now I see it's a comon problem.

More suitable it would be, if connecting the ipod to the PC always makes the device accessible while a mode to "listen-while-charging" should activated by a pressed key (i.e. select) during plugging in.
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Offline cool_walking_

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2007, 06:41:45 AM »
Oppaunke, the new USB stack (what lets the iPod talk to the PC over a USB cable) is not complete - all it does currently, is request more power for charging. Whenever you were/are transferring files between your iPod and computer, you were/are using the Apple firmware.

The black-and-white screen with "do not disconnect" is Apple's "emergency disk mode" (accessible by rebooting the iPod with menu+select, and then straight away holding play+select). All Rockbox previously did, was reboot itself into this disk mode.  The emergency disk mode is also slower than the normal disk mode in the Apple firmware.
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Offline GodEater

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2007, 09:03:55 AM »
Quote from: cool_walking_ on December 14, 2007, 06:41:45 AM
The emergency disk mode is also slower than the normal disk mode in the Apple firmware.

Especially on Nanos. Reboot into the original firmware to get full speed transfer going.
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Offline Oppaunke

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Re: New USB Stack
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2007, 12:12:37 PM »
Thank you, now everything makes sense to me - this means patience is due :-)
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