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DRM - Seriously, Why Not?

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scharkalvin:
DRM is just a tool to protect a copyright holders interests by insuring that media he has sold can be used ONLY by the buyer.  Ideally it would work by a key based encryption method.  Such a device COULD be open sourced because the way it is SUPPOSED to work is that the decryption only can happen if you have the keys.  As far as I know there ISN'T a standard for such a device, and until such a standard is in place there simply isn't a way to support DRM across all products.

I don't think that DRM itself is evil, but until a standard is in place that would allow open source access to use of DRM'ed media the status quo implementation IS evil.

The end users rights must come first in a product and any DRM that restricts these rights is a problem.  A few DRM'ed media suppliers have made some effort to not step on end users rights (Apple iTunes), but all is still not perfect.

I'd rather buy CD's and rip them then have to deal with DRM'ed downloads.  But CD's may be an endangered species, and at some point we are going to have to deal with the cyberspace delivery problem.....

Yotto:
Don't get me wrong.  I don't agree with DRM on purchases and am extremely wary on Rentals (I accept the DRM in Netflix's "Watch It Now" feature becasue I'm not buying the movie, and actually not even paying for the instance of watching it.  I'd never buy a DRM'd song from iTunes or any other service, however.  I'm on the fence about the system Napster has (had?))

However, if it was legal to crack DRM, and somebody did, you know that'd be the most popular patch in the Unofficial builds section.

Hef:

--- Quote from: GodEater on November 21, 2007, 02:59:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yotto on November 20, 2007, 09:53:52 PM ---Open Source not wanting to sully itself with DRM isn't the problem.  The problem DRM not giving Open Source the option.

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The problem with DRM is people accepting it in the first place.


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What's not to accept? I've got as much music as any of you in mp3 format on my hard drives. As much as it is, I get tired of it, and always want something new. I have 3 kids and a wife, all interested in different music than I am. I'm an old Rocker, my wife needs Techno Crap for workout tapes, and who knows what kids are listening to.
With Rhapsody, we are all happy. Quoting Scharkalvin - "DRM is just a tool to protect a copyright holders interests by insuring that media he has sold can be used ONLY by the buyer." How else can a company justify giving us the right to listen without a way to protect the artists? It's annoying...Yes. But they are letting me take whatever I want and listen.
For all of that, it's easy to accept.

As for companies doing an about face, yes Rhapsody bought Urge ?, and those customers I guess, all lost there database library. But they dont lose the music. It's all available to them again. They never owned it, and you have to understand that when you get in.

All that said, I wasnt looking for an argument, and after reading through these forums, I know that a lot of folks have bad attitudes about it, some I believe are for the wrong reasons. It seems that some think it's a free speech, or scensorship issue. It's only a way for a subscription company to operate.

Thanks for the comments.
Hef

GodEater:
Leaving aside all the philosophical arguments, of which I have many - the reason we can't do DRM is because the people who implement it HAVE to keep how it works a secret. Otherwise they can't generate revenue from it.

This means it can't EVER be used in an open source way.

Chronon:

--- Quote from: Hef on November 21, 2007, 10:44:27 AM ---
As for companies doing an about face, yes Rhapsody bought Urge ?, and those customers I guess, all lost there database library. But they dont lose the music. It's all available to them again. They never owned it, and you have to understand that when you get in.


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That sounds like such a sucker's game.  Give me a CD instead.  Or let me go to an actual concert.  The latter is the most preferable option because it's a direct exchange between the creative source of the music and me.  The artist has much more power in a concert setting and I would prefer to support the artist over the record company or other corporate broker.

Anyway, this whole thing is moot for reasons that GodEater has given.  

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