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Llorean:
The GPL requires that if you give someone the binary, and they ask for the source, you have to then give them the source.

So you can distribute the binary to testers, but then any one of them can request the source and then pass it on to share.

Why not just post it, so you can get feedback about the code too, as well as help developing it further?

gottahavit:

--- Quote from: Llorean on March 31, 2010, 09:57:43 PM ---The GPL requires that if you give someone the binary, and they ask for the source, you have to then give them the source.

So you can distribute the binary to testers, but then any one of them can request the source and then pass it on to share.

Why not just post it, so you can get feedback about the code too, as well as help developing it further?

--- End quote ---

because as I said the code is currently a total mess and has lots of stuff I already know needs to be completely reworked.  but that's fine if that is the current SOP on this community then I will simply keep working on this as I have time and IF/WHEN it ever gets to a point where I think it's actually useable  and I get the code to a point where I actually want feedback and suggestions then I will post.

again I don't want to get into a big GPL argument here(been there done that), but I can tell you that I have worked on and run several GPL and GPL "mutant" projects in the past and have never had an issue picking a couple beta testers have them do quick runs of my code without publishing the "proof of concept" source.

Apparently I jumped the gun here. NBD. :-)

Llorean:
I'm not saying you won't get testers. I'm simply pointing out that if one of those testers decides he or she also wants the source, you will be in violation of the GPL if you deny them.

It's not a community issue. Go and actually read the GPL. Giving them the test version is distributing a binary, and there are obligations that come with doing so.

Seriously, if you know there's lots of cleanup to be done post it to the tracker with a mention of what you intend to clean up. That way if you disappear or don't have time to finish it, someone can continue the work anyway.

Simply put, your work benefits nobody until it's shared - the sooner you share it, the sooner you can cement your place as having contributed something.

If it already decodes at 26fps, it's a solid starting point for anyone to work on even if over the next two years you don't have a minute of free time. But if you're in a car wreck tomorrow, the entire Rockbox community loses out on having a chance to benefit from the time you've already put into it.

gbl08ma:
So, we got stuck? It seems so. Or that, or the mpeg-4 decoder of the above posts was "written" in 1st April... which, just in case you don't remember, is April fools day on many countries.

But assuming that mpeg-4 decoder at 26fps was not a fool, it seems we got stuck since there is no patch available to public...
"That way if you disappear or don't have time to finish it, someone can continue the work anyway." (Llorean)

Sorry for reviving a very old thread. But, even having only an iPod Nano with a microscopic screen, I sometimes like to watch videos in there (specially videoclips) and I'm tired of having to convert everything to mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 format getting an enormous file size. :(

Yes, I understand that most targets don't have power to decode mpeg-4, but anyways is there any progress in the video scene? If mpeg-4 is too much heavy, is there any other format that could replace mpeg-4, providing the same quality but not enlarging the file size as mpeg-1 and mpeg-2?

Thanks.

saratoga:

--- Quote from: gbl08ma on October 03, 2010, 02:41:07 PM ---So, we got stuck? It seems so. Or that, or the mpeg-4 decoder of the above posts was "written" in 1st April... which, just in case you don't remember, is April fools day on many countries.

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He didn't write anything so there never was anything to get stuck. 


--- Quote from: gbl08ma on October 03, 2010, 02:41:07 PM ---Sorry for reviving a very old thread. But, even having only an iPod Nano with a microscopic screen, I sometimes like to watch videos in there (specially videoclips) and I'm tired of having to convert everything to mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 format getting an enormous file size. :(
--- End quote ---

File size for MPEG4-SP videos is basically the same as MPEG2, and of course you'll still have to convert them to MPEG4-SP in the first place.


--- Quote from: gbl08ma on October 03, 2010, 02:41:07 PM ---there any other format that could replace mpeg-4, providing the same quality but not enlarging the file size as mpeg-1 and mpeg-2?

--- End quote ---

Yes, MPEG2.

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