Creative ZEN

[natanelho]

so how to install it? where can i find info about installing rb on my zen?

[pamaury]

It is all written on the wiki page http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENPort.

[giogio]

In which file is there the buttons configuration? I'd like to make use of the unutilized option button for context menu, as it should be, instead of long press on center button.

[saratoga]

The keymaps are in apps/keymaps.

[giogio]

I pushed a modified version of the keymap. This is the link for review:  http://gerrit.rockbox.org/1149
Thank you

[FireKeeper]

hey guys!

is the SD card works fine for you? mine doesn't seem to work properly if i boot up with the card slotted it. i have to disconnect and reconnect the card to get it to work. it works fine after this, but still, it's very annoying. any settings/fix for this?

[pamaury]

Hi,
I was not aware of this problem. I'll try on it on my ZEN to see if it suffers from this problem.

[chrisjj]

the start-up BSoD issue remains. As previously reported, about one in five RB start-ups fails with a BSoD requiring reset.

Anyone know if this is fixed? The port is otherwise awesomely good and I'd love to be able to use it for real.

[pamaury]

Hi,
I don't think there has been much progress on the matter: my last commit on this issue is about one year old and I believe the status is the same: it works for some and is very unreliable for others.

[chrisjj]

I believe the status is the same: it works for some and is very unreliable for others.

On the units I've tried, the results vary for RB boot failing every time (with Data abort at 6004D60C) and about one in five RB start-ups fail with a BSoD requiring reset.

If the failing every time unit might help your debugging, do say, and I'll verify with the latest build and post it to you.

[brendonla]

Took four hours of trial and error of loading the bootloader into the Creative Zen and then figuring out that the Rockbox software has to be extracted from zip archive directly to the internal memory after proper formatting, but wow was this totally worth it!

Enjoying this with my Vsonic VSD5 IEMs. There's plenty of life left in this old horse thanks to Rockbox.
Thank you to the dev(s) who worked on this RockBox port!

[natanelho]

wow that maked my 16GB zen usable again! THX!
btw is there a way to make 2 partitions- one for the OF and one FAT32-formatted for RB?

[pamaury]

Hi,
unfortnately, there is no easy way for rockbox and creative to share the storage. If I remember correctly, Creative uses a nonstandard partition record, so in theory I could create a rockbox-only partition, so that the OF and rockbox both work. However this approach has some downsides:

• how do you choose the size dedicated to OF versus dedicated to Rockbox ? can you change it ? how ?
• Rockbox would only be able to access its partition and the OF its partition only (ie you cannot share songs)

If there are enough votes for this approach, with some suggestion on how to choose the rockbox versus OF ratio, I can implement it.

One possiblity for rockbox versus OF size: the bootloader could provide a menu (when pushing some button on boot), which let you choose between, say, 0%, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. The bootloader could then resize but then both OF and rockbox partition would be erased (ie loss of data). Also that would mean investigating how to format an OF partition but hopefully it can be done.

[ZOS474]

Thanks to the incredible work here, I have upgraded two of my old 8gb Creative Zens to rockbox and am beyond happy with the results (database covers both the internal memory and the SD card - I have 32gb on both - and all the songs are found & very important for me, I can change the left/right sound balance!)  Since I had to dig around to put the procedure together, I thought I would reproduce exactly what I did to get mine working.  I am using Windows 7 64 bit, but I expect the procedure should be similar for other windows versions.

01. Download the following firmware files and store them in an easy location on your computer hard drive (you can scan earlier forum posts to understand history of these)
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/nlgm4857t0d8btr/firmware-zen-beta.nk
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vwc4qdyh0c6e0p/sendfirm.exe
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/t96injmo9d2jhgt/MTP_DLL.dll
02. If needed, disconnect your Zen from the computer
03. Shut off Zen by pressing reset button (with paperclip inserted into hole bottom of unit) - you can't just toggle the on/off button
04. Start up by holding the play button down and toggling the on button
05. Select Reload Firmware & select Yes to erase firmware.
06. When done, connect with USB cable to computer
07. Open DOS windows into the directory on the computer that contains sendfirm.exe and firmware-zen-beta.nk (navigate to the directory in windows explorer, then keep the Shift key down and right-click in the open area on the right side.  From the drop down menu select Open Command Window Here.)
08. In the DOS window type: sendfirm firmware-zen-beta.nk (this is the latest version as of 7/25/16 and is dated 2/10/2014.) When you get a message that the firmware was sent succesfully, close the DOS window.
09. The Zen should now show up as a drive in Windows (if you have an SD Card installed, it will show as 2 drives.)  The following refers to the main Zen Drive (it may be easier if you eject the SD Card until you are done so you dont accidentally mistake it for the main drive.)
10. You might get a message from Windows asking to format the drive - if you do then click yes otherwise right-click the drive in windows and select format.  Use the default settings to quick format with FAT32
11. Get the latest zen rockbox package at http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=creativezen.  As of 7/25/16, the latest rev is 0f89b04 and package is rockbox-creativezen-20160725.zip
12. Extract the package to the zen drive (it should all be grouped under .rockbox as the main directory - I open the zip file in 7Zip and drag the whole folder over so all I see on the zen drive is .rockbox with everything else stored under that.)
13. When all copied, eject the unit from windows (as you would a normal hard drive i.e. click on the 'Safely Remove' icon on the taskbar) and then reboot Zen (turn off then turn on again.)
14. When all running OK then you can install alternate fonts & themes - to do this shut zen down then connect the USB cable to get into native disk mode.  If you connect the usb cable while zen is on it will connect into music copy mode instead.
15. To install themes: go to http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?allthemes & choose any of the 320x240 resolution options that look good.  They will download as zip files and will have .rockbox as the root directory.  Extract these so they merge into the .rockbox structure on the zen drive (I do this by just dragging the .rockbox directory in the zip file onto the zen drive in windows explorer - it then asks if I want to merge with the existing folder and I say yes.)
16. The procedure for installing fonts is similar - get the font pack from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxExtras

I hope this helps!

[saratoga]

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