Author Topic: Creative ZEN (Read 147820 times)

pamaury · « **Reply #150 on:** May 07, 2014, 11:41:52 AM »

Here is a build with an extended delay for SD init: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8uzv7xnvhsgfh32/rockbox_zen_extra_sd_delay.zip. The timeout is set to 3 seconds.

grums · « **Reply #151 on:** May 07, 2014, 03:56:58 PM »

Thank you - it fails in exactly the same way as described earlier, when the card is inserted.
A boot with the card inserted also fails to detect the card - but is that because the bootloader hasn't been replaced? Thank you for your efforts.

@Saratoga: I (clearly) don't know this build system, but how did CronosSphere in reply #137 manage to run the BatteryBenchmark plugin - if the rest of the plugins are not ported?

[Saint] · « **Reply #152 on:** May 08, 2014, 12:25:40 AM »

Quote from: grums on May 07, 2014, 03:56:58 PM

@Saratoga: I (clearly) don't know this build system, but how did CronosSphere in reply #137 manage to run the BatteryBenchmark plugin - if the rest of the plugins are not ported?

S/he didn't, I'm guessing.

I can understand how you could parse it that way, but, there is more than one way to skin a cat, as it were.

They could have simply charged the device and watched the clock, or checked the information presented in System -> Running Time, or "guestimated" from System -> Debug -> View battery.

[Saint]

pamaury · « **Reply #153 on:** May 08, 2014, 05:58:03 AM »

For reference, here is what a minimal keymap change looks like: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=d489444119f6c734d7065cd52833f37fd7f739e8 This one is for the ZEN X-Fi3 but the principle is the same: go through all plugins, fix them.

ChronoSphere · « **Reply #154 on:** May 10, 2014, 07:50:13 AM »

Quote from: grums on May 07, 2014, 03:56:58 PM

@Saratoga: I (clearly) don't know this build system, but how did CronosSphere in reply #137 manage to run the BatteryBenchmark plugin - if the rest of the plugins are not ported?

He timed it by hand, that's why the times are in +/-

Considering the OF doesn't have a bench plugin, I had to do it for the OF anyway.

saratoga · « **Reply #155 on:** May 10, 2014, 12:36:25 PM »

For battery benchmarking the OF I recommend using the line in on your PC and some recording software. When the battery eventually dies, check to see when the recorded audio goes silent.

ChronoSphere · « **Reply #156 on:** May 10, 2014, 07:19:07 PM »

That's a good workaround, but wouldn't the different resistance between using line in and the headphones throw the measurement off? I'm not an expert on those things though.

Oh and the firmware has been rock solid so far. What is still missing until it can be counted "stable"?

[Saint] · « **Reply #157 on:** May 10, 2014, 11:10:07 PM »

Quote from: ChronoSphere on May 10, 2014, 07:19:07 PM

Oh and the firmware has been rock solid so far. What is still missing until it can be counted "stable"?

From rockbox.org:

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Stable ports

Rockbox runs well on these players, has a complete manual and is supported by the installer:

[Saint]

varogami · « **Reply #158 on:** May 22, 2014, 10:26:41 AM »

Hello, I'm trying rockbox on my creative zen, and I love it, it's a great work. I have some questions, I'm using this git commit

commit 4b181b4517fad106ab1ffbdab01adac9cf8e4bee
Author: Jonathan Gordon <rockbox@jdgordon.info>
Date: Wed May 21 18:39:56 2014 +1000

and rockbox for zen "rockbox-creativezen-20140520.zip"
and I have Debian/Wheezy linux

is it normal that "sendfirm" do:

Device 0 (VID=041e and PID=4157) is a Creative ZEN.
LIBMTP PANIC: could not inspect object property descriptions!
LIBMTP PANIC: could not inspect object property descriptions!
Sending /home/andrea/workspace/rockbox/rockbox/myfirmware-zen.nk
Sending file...
Progress: 25215078 of 25215078 (100%)
Error sending file.
Error 2: PTP Layer error 02ff: LIBMTP_Send_File_From_File_Descriptor(): Could not send object.
Error 2: (Look this up in ptp.h for an explanation.)
ERROR: Could not close session!

The firmware work even with errors.

Another questions is, how to make a database statistic like "most listen"?
how to help for testing?
I see it needs battery testing but I can't help because my battery work bad with original system, I don't think I can give good information.

Thanks
varo

pamaury · « **Reply #159 on:** May 23, 2014, 05:03:42 AM »

Hi, yes sendfirm can report errors and yet the update work. This is because here it reports errors on other operations (like close session). Usually this happen if you device is also used by another MTP tool or daemon.
I think the database tracks the number of times you listen to a song and you sort by most listened, but I admit I never use it so I'm not sure.
At the moment, what is really missing are keymap for the plugins, and a port of the manual. Unfortunately they are both painful to do. Appart from that, just using the device and reporting problems is a good way to help, if you find reproduceable bugs.

[Saint] · « **Reply #160 on:** May 23, 2014, 09:45:12 PM »

The Database will capture a great number of playback statistics (including most/least/never played tracks) under the "History" sub-menu, but in order for this to function "gather runtime data" *must* be enabled.

[Saint]

varogami · « **Reply #161 on:** May 25, 2014, 12:07:34 PM »

@pamaury
To make a manual did we need to complete rockbox system like installation with rockbox utility? Or simply can we use the instruction in wiki of "zen new port"?
How make keymap of plugin? I immagine it needs compile plugin and config with creative keymap, but I don't find plugin source. I tried to compile ui-simulator and make it plugins of other players but it return on error on elf header.

@[Saint]
thanks, I thought that it disable in rockbox zen source code

saratoga · « **Reply #162 on:** May 25, 2014, 02:26:06 PM »

Quote from: varogami on May 25, 2014, 12:07:34 PM

How make keymap of plugin? I immagine it needs compile plugin and config with creative keymap, but I don't find plugin source. I tried to compile ui-simulator and make it plugins of other players but it return on error on elf header.

Take a look at the commit for the Zen XFI 3:

http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=d489444

The changes for the Zen are likely to be very similar, although the specific keys won't be precisely the same.

pamaury · « **Reply #163 on:** July 17, 2014, 09:45:23 AM »

Hi all,
since no one wanted to do the job, I created the keymap for all the plugins and enabled them. So you can now use your favorite plugin. Beware, I didn't test most of the plugins, I just create want I thought was a sensible keymap. So if you think it is not optimal in some cases, please report this here and provide an alternative proposal. I cannot list the keys here, it would be too long, but just know that:

commit can be seen here: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=e08331e
to be consistent, most plugins use the back key to quit or cancel, execpt if the plugin has a menu in which case use the menu key to reach it
most plugins use the shortcut for everything like restart
most plugins use select for the obvious action, except when the action is play/pause in which case use the dedicated button

chrisjj · « **Reply #164 on:** July 19, 2014, 02:51:59 PM »

Quote from: pamaury on May 23, 2014, 05:03:42 AM

Hi, yes sendfirm can report errors and yet the update work. This is because here it reports errors on other operations (like close session). Usually this happen if you device is also used by another MTP tool or daemon.

FWIW I have made many runs ensuring no other process accessing the ZEN, and go no errors.