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Offline ONE_HUMAN

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New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« on: October 25, 2007, 01:09:30 PM »
ACOTIL - A Combo Of Themes I Like (or A Combo Of Things I Like)

I think this theme is finally finished.  I've made a lot of changes in the past week.  What do you think?



It's available in four theme sets comprising 26 different themes using a whole assortment of different coloured backdrops, including numerous other blue ones, and some orange and green ones not shown here.

You can see all the screenshots here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21241

I've tried to upload it here to the TWiki WpsGallery, however, even though I'm registered, I don't have access to edit the page.  I get the following message:

TWiki . Main . WpsGallery (oops)   
Attention 
---+ Access Denied
Access check on Main.WpsGallery failed. Action "change": access not allowed on web.

Contact twiki@haxx.se if you have any questions.


I've sent numerous emails to that address with no reply, so I'm at a loss of what to do.  I wish the process for uploading themes was much simpler and straightforward.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 09:37:28 PM by ONE_HUMAN »
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Offline Llorean

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 01:32:29 PM »
It does say in the wiki guidelines that after you create a wiki account, you have to get write permission by coming to the IRC channel and asking for it. This is to verify those editing the wiki are not bots.

Please, don't ignore forum guidelines just because something is complicated. The rules don't say "Unless it's too hard to follow us." You could've simply asked "What does this error message in the wiki mean" here or in IRC and gotten useful help instead of once more choosing to ignore our posting guidelines.

In all seriousness, what exactly makes you think you get to ignore the rules when it suits you?

Just as a note: We're working on merging with rockbox-themes.org, and things will be much easier to use. But you do not get to ignore the rules as it suits you.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 01:39:13 PM by Llorean »
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Offline gigman

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 11:17:45 PM »
awsome theme i'm using it right now ;) :)... it's awsome.  I really think the admin people need to be a little more friendly and less strict it's going to start turning people away from these forums
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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 01:02:48 AM »
i like the guidelines. following them makes it A LOT easier to find all the themes for you player. imagine having to search the forums for themes. that would take ages. these rules have been here long enough that they should stay and not be "bent". also theres rules on almost every forum.
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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 12:42:05 PM »
Hey, do you mind if I port this to the nano. If so just PM me.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 02:33:15 PM »
He can't PM you for another day or two, he got himself banned again. What many of you don't see is the removed posts from when he decided to spam this in every board on the forum (which got him his first ban) and when he used inappropriate language and told me clearly that he was not going to follow the forum guidelines because he did in fact, in no uncertain terms, feel they didn't apply to him if he didn't agree with him (which got him a second ban, and an explanation that if he doesn't want them to apply to him, he's more than likely to leave.)

When he returns, hopefully he'll realize that it's easier for everyone if he simply follows what are relatively simple rules in the first place. I don't want to have to, but spamming every board is a significant problem in the first place, and really third strike will be "he's out" especially considering his very clear sentiments on rules.
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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 06:53:24 PM »
Llorean is the admin for a reason, with all the stuff that has to be controlled in rockbox and all the things that go on daily, there is no time to remeber individual users or tolerate offenses. rockbox is a wonderful project that the public has the privialge to use and because of the many admins and mods like llorean its a great place to come to to share ideas and get help, which is why the rockbox project is expanding and why there are more and more users everyday
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Offline Llorean

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 07:18:25 PM »
I do try to be somewhat tolerant. New users are expected to read the guidelines, but I rarely delete first posts that violate a guideline unless it's spam, illegal, or otherwise mandates change. I'm perfectly willing to accept people who don't know the rules at first, even though we make it clear in the signup screen that they're enforced heavily.

But in all honesty, the only mitigation is "I didn't know." And that doesn't last beyond the first time an admin says "You need to read the guidelines." Because I really, really can't choose to enforce the rules less harshly when someone was "just trying to be helpful" and more harshly when they're not, because then it leaves it up to my opinion whether or not rules get enforced. And they need to be enforced as objectively as I can. That ends up meaning that whether I like an idea or not, if something in the post breaks the rules, I'm going to say so, and if I need to remove or change the post.

Of course some people take this personally, and I can't help that. The rules are posted, and at least in my mind, you make a choice to break the rules knowing what the consequence is. So, the person who knowingly posts a rule-violating post chose to have it changed or remove. It wasn't a choice I made to enforce the rules, as so long as they're there I *have* to. Yes, I'm a human being and I can choose not to enforce them, strictly speaking, but at that point I may as well be replaced with someone who will enforce them evenly.

I'll stop enforcing them when they change, and then I'll enforce the new ones. :) So, remember, for the people upset with how I enforce the rules: Call me on it if I enforce something that's not written in the rules, and suggest new rules if you don't like the current ones (but remember they're there for a reason), but please, please don't complain about me enforcing the ones that ARE there. I didn't write all of them, and my job isn't to pick and choose who gets to slip past them, it's just to try to enforce them where possible.
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Offline P.Opus

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2007, 09:51:59 PM »
It is a shame that he got himself banned.

The themes are very well done

However, I did modify the WPS screen to include Album information, and I replaced the 128KPS indicator in the bottom left corner with a playlist indicator (e.g. 120/500)

Again, the beauty of Rockbox is its ability to customize to your own tastes.

The ACOTIL format is a great starting point. and provides a very nice clean WPS screen to display your info.

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Offline Llorean

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2007, 10:19:12 PM »
When the ban expires he's welcome to come back as long as he's willing to play by the rules. As he agreed to them during registration, you'd think he'd be willing, but apparently some peoples' word isn't worth anything these days. ;)
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Offline ONE_HUMAN

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2007, 12:32:16 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on October 29, 2007, 10:19:12 PM
When the ban expires he's welcome to come back as long as he's willing to play by the rules. As he agreed to them during registration, you'd think he'd be willing, but apparently some peoples' word isn't worth anything these days. ;)

There you go being all anal again.  My word is good, but I didn't really give my word.  I didn't bother to read the guidelines.  Do you really read every word of a EULA every time you install a program?  Oh wait, you probably do.  Well, I don't.  So yes, I registered by submitting whatever was necessary, but I didn't give my word to play by all your silly rules.  Sorry.  I've been a member of tons of forums, and I figured this one would be like most others, however, I was wrong.  Regardless, if you think I deserve a ban after some third strike infraction, I'll survive.  If I deem it necessary to participate here again, I'll simply create a new username, so your threats really have no effect on me.

And now regarding my ACOTIL themes, it appears there were some errors in the .wps files which no longer play nice with the stricter parsing of newer Rockbox builds, so you'll want to download the most recent versions of my themes from "that other site" which I think I'm not supposed to mention, because it's not "officially" affiliated with Rockbox... yet.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2007, 12:48:10 AM »
Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse. I suppose if you ever get arrested, you'll say "I didn't read your laws, therefor they don't apply to me?"

This forum belongs to specific people. They put the rules into place. You don't have a right to be here. You're merely allowed here because you requested permission to post here, and told us you agreed to something. The fact that you didn't read it is your problem, not mine. And honestly, I can care less if you get a new username afterward, so long as that new username then follows the rules, because at this point, you aren't ignorant anymore, so signing up you WILL be agreeing knowingly.
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Offline psycho_maniac

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2007, 12:57:30 AM »
its not hard to register to the wiki, join the #rockbox channel in freenode, ask for write permission which is very easy to get, and then edit the wps wiki page you made those themes for. i did it recently and it was not that hard.
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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2007, 10:23:13 AM »
Quote from: psycho_maniac on November 21, 2007, 12:57:30 AM
its not hard to register to the wiki, join the #rockbox channel in freenode, ask for write permission which is very easy to get, and then edit the wps wiki page you made those themes for. i did it recently and it was not that hard.

Not to mention it's written in red letters quite clearly on the wiki signup page.  I added TWO warnings about it to the "How to upload your WPS" guidelines a little while ago.  This is putting a serious dent in my humanism (usernames can be very apt).

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Offline ONE_HUMAN

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Re: New Sansa E200 Theme - ACOTIL
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2007, 02:27:29 AM »
Quote from: psycho_maniac on November 21, 2007, 12:57:30 AM
its not hard to register to the wiki, join the #rockbox channel in freenode, ask for write permission which is very easy to get, and then edit the wps wiki page you made those themes for. i did it recently and it was not that hard.

Not everyone is techno geek like you.  I'm an artist.  :)
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