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Using both FWs - Apple & Rockbox on 1 folder structure
scharkalvin:
--- Quote ---@scharkalvin: Note - some users don't like the database in Rockbox. Myself included.
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I guess the choices are to order your music by directory/file names or to use the tags and let the database order them. The rockbox database doesn't seem too bad to me, except for the profusion of "" entries if you don't check to see that you have all the required tags set before you download the music files. At least since rockbox targets can be used as external disk drives you can always edit the tags in place. On the ipod if you want to us both firmwares (since rockbox doesn't support the serial interface for remote control, database searching and metadata reporting), you're stuck with the rockbox database when in rockbox.
Maybe some user config options for the database might be nice (which tags to use, tag order, etc).
BTW Apple is moving away from the serial interface standard for ipod control and is pushing third party hw developers to use the usb interface instead. Looks like the ipods (not sure which ones it started with) support a previously undocumented control interface via usb.
GodEater:
--- Quote from: scharkalvin on October 23, 2007, 08:30:29 AM --- On the ipod if you want to us both firmwares (since rockbox doesn't support the serial interface for remote control, database searching and metadata reporting), you're stuck with the rockbox database when in rockbox.
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As was highlighted above, this was not always the case however. If it means that much to tomster, he can revert to an old Apple firmware which will allow use of MediaMonkey or foodop to rebuild the database on the ipod based on whatever file structure he decides to use.
As far as I know, this is STILL possible even with the latest Apple firmware, *provided* you keep your file / folder structure inside ipod_control.
bluebrother:
--- Quote from: scharkalvin on October 23, 2007, 08:21:04 AM ---I meant to say you would have lots of !untagged! entries in the rockbox database.
I put "" around the untagged and the forum script must have deleted them thinking it was an html tag.
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It's not deleted, it's not correctly encoded so the generated page contains a html tag "untagged" which the browser doesn't show. It's a known issue with the forums software ...
But that is going offtopic now ;)
tomster:
--- Quote from: bluebrother on October 23, 2007, 08:11:54 AM ---FAT doesn't support symlinks.
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OK, that should have put the first coupl'a ounces of concrete around my idea's ankles...
--- Quote ---Unless there is a hacked Apple firmware around that can handle alternative file locations I only see the solution to keep the obfuscated structure generated by Itunes.
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Naa, I'm not giving up that quick ;-) And besides, the idea with an older firmware DOES have its charm as long as there actually is one?! Not knowing an awful lot about different FW-versions, there's a good chance of my G5.5 iPod Video simply being "too new" for such tweaks.
--- Quote ---Or get the serial device working in Rockbox ;)
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Got me on that. Did I forget to mention me being more of a Captain Cereal rather than Captain Serial?
--- Quote from: scharklavin ---As far as I know, this is STILL possible even with the latest Apple firmware, *provided* you keep your file / folder structure inside ipod_control.
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Hmm, I actually never tried this. I always assumed that Apple not only requires the files residing in the iPod_Control folder but also being renamed in that cryptic way. But maybe before typing my fingertips to the bone I first should give it a try.
I'm still gasping because of your reply speed.
Thank you again, all of you from
Si Tshermahn
GodEater:
--- Quote from: tomster on October 23, 2007, 10:44:50 AM ---And besides, the idea with an older firmware DOES have its charm as long as there actually is one?! Not knowing an awful lot about different FW-versions, there's a good chance of my G5.5 iPod Video simply being "too new" for such tweaks.
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http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/
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