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Redesign of the www.rockbox.org front page
macku:
--- Quote from: pixelma on April 28, 2009, 05:40:09 AM ---wouldn't it be better to not have such a white "band"? In my eyes it makes the page fall apart
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I think it is opposite. White part makes visitor focus on it. While blue separates other information. And this is good if the white box causes user to easily aim to the most important things. Not exactly be those stuff I have proposed, but like I said: it's text - can be changed.
And in fact, this is front page. In my opinion it should say "where to go next", not to show all kind of information. Most of you are developers crew and I understand that is good to have "dev stuff" on front page. I'm just another Rockbox user. That is why I decided to hide table of subversion changes, and even consider to do the same with last mails and wiki updates. But if this is really important I can place table under the wiki and mailing.
Main thought about your mockups: to blue.
--- Quote from: pixelma on April 28, 2009, 05:40:09 AM ---Yes, unfortunately it is a dying art, because everyone uses the same display resolution and uses the browser in the same window size and forgot why HTML was invented...
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If I can say short story. Nearly year ago I changed my monitor from 19" (5:4 proportions, 1280x1024) to 22" (16:10, 1680x1050px). I was *really* surprised about how web page looks like. Some of them was (are?) even designed for 800x600px. Those pages fills only 1/3 space of my monitor.
What I'm trying to say is that web pages aren't designed for every type of display resolutions but for the most popular. That's way I decided to create it with static width. Here you can check how proposed page look on my monitor with fixed and flexible width. The lesser evil, I rather prefer "tight" version.
PS: @piexma: If you want to see how html and web evolve check some of this pages: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Llorean:
I think if we're going to go any further, we need to really decide what belongs in each box. If we're going to "focus" attention somewhere, we need to figure out what exactly is to be focused on, and display it there, so we can see how big it is, and what visual effects this actually results in.
The temporary text there could be much larger (or smaller) than what we would realistically put there otherwise.
Basically, there's no sense in defining the layout first, then the text, if the text has the power to redefine aspects of the layout. It all needs to be done at once.
gevaerts:
--- Quote from: macku on April 28, 2009, 01:38:32 PM ---What I'm trying to say is that web pages aren't designed for every type of display resolutions but for the most popular.
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This is where you're wrong. Web pages shouldn't be designed for a specific resolution *at all*
macku:
--- Quote from: gevaerts on April 28, 2009, 02:01:28 PM ---This is where you're wrong. Web pages shouldn't be designed for a specific resolution *at all*
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I agree. What I wrote wasn't my opinion how pages should be designed, but an observation how they are. We can convincing each other, if page should have static or flexible width, but that is not a point. I just wanted to explain why I used fixed width.
kugel.:
--- Quote from: GodEater on April 28, 2009, 07:50:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: pixelma on April 28, 2009, 05:40:09 AM ---Actually, I did not do these mockups just to hear they look better, or they don't. The reason for doing them was getting my point across and to have something to work with (and to show that I'm willing to spend time and thought too). As in e.g.: wouldn't it be better to not have such a white "band"? In my eyes it makes the page fall apart (and if I remember correctly, Llorean stated a similar concern earlier).
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And I *like* the white band. It does break the page up, deliberately, and in a useful way. It provides a nice visual cue for arranging information in catergories without actually having to have some generic title slapped in the middle of the page.
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I agree that the white band does anything bad. For me it neither creates a huge gap, nor it takes grand focus (the only thing that gets my focus is the big question mark sign). And once there's pictures for all targets, these pictures will get the most focus and making user ask himself "How can I do that". Then he finds the manual and installation links directly to the left.
I just prefered pixelma's colors, not the fact that it got rid of the white band for a reason.
I agree too that the activity table shouldn't be disappear entirely, but it should be hugely cropped or just show a summary (to show our activeness). More infos will always be on the site dedicated to devs (if there's going to be one.
People only being interested in the changes already don't browse our current main page, but recent.shtml.
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