new ipods - rockbox port proposal

[GodEater]

I was already planning to buy the 80gb next week anyways, so cheers to Apple for this one.

But without Rockbox, the 160gb is useless. So i'm in a pickle.

Just as an aside, I *really* believe that you won't be able to run rockbox on EITHER of the new classics. Doesn't matter what drive size you buy.

[gnychis]

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod/iPod-Classic

the insides

[GodEater]

These pics, while not being the best quality confirm it. The iPod classic is NOT portalplayer based - and therefore no existing Rockbox build will work on them.

And on the same site is a new 3G nano - also dismantled, and ALSO not portalplayer.

[LambdaCalculus]

iFixit's guide is quite informative about the majority of the hardware components, at the very least. But yes, these look like the very same Samsung SOC chip Apple used in the nano 2G.

Translation: Brand spanking new port, and lots of headaches.

[dcr693]

iFixit's guide is quite informative about the majority of the hardware components, at the very least. But yes, these look like the very same Samsung SOC chip Apple used in the nano 2G.

Translation: Brand spanking new port, and lots of headaches.

This is the very reason I gave my 2G nano to my brother and why, when my 1G nano failed I opted to buy a Sansa E200 series. Sorry Apple. I love your products, but I NEED Rockbox.

[LambdaCalculus]

This is the very reason I feel bad for my brother being stuck with a nano 2G. He wanted to offer it to the devs for research, but doesn't have an alternate DAP. Since he wants something Rockboxable, it's settled.

I'm getting him a Sansa e280 for Xmas then.

[countach]

wow, I'm happy i just bought one of the lasts 5.5 gen 80Gb...

 

[cormie]

Nooo That's such a pity it's not ready for rockbox. 160GB is sooo nice but I just can't see myself buying it without rockbox. Looks like I'll be waiting another few years to upgrade from my H140.

[scrollop]

Hello,
 found this on the head-fi forums. A smart bunny opened up a new ipod classic to determine if the layout/DAC is the same as the 5.5g.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=259258

 Â Hope this helps any devs who might be willing to port rockbox to the new ipods. He seems to know what he's talking about as it's all gibberish to me.

edit: there's also a diagnostic mode. Hackable?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipodlounger/sets/72157601903055437/

[polygonal]

edit: there's also a diagnostic mode. Hackable?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipodlounger/sets/72157601903055437/

Hmmm, one of those screens shows current temperature... Can ipod detect current temperature? That's kinda cool

[gnychis]

edit: there's also a diagnostic mode. Hackable?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipodlounger/sets/72157601903055437/

that's pretty cool, thanks for linking that

[saratoga]

Hello,
 found this on the head-fi forums. A smart bunny opened up a new ipod classic to determine if the layout/DAC is the same as the 5.5g.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=259258

  Hope this helps any devs who might be willing to port rockbox to the new ipods. He seems to know what he's talking about as it's all gibberish to me.

No it is pretty much just all nonsense.  Such is the way of the head-fi poster.

edit: there's also a diagnostic mode. Hackable?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipodlounger/sets/72157601903055437/

Its just an information screen.  Its hackable in the sense that the rest of the firmware is hackable.  

[gnychis]

Hello,
 found this on the head-fi forums. A smart bunny opened up a new ipod classic to determine if the layout/DAC is the same as the 5.5g.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=259258

  Hope this helps any devs who might be willing to port rockbox to the new ipods. He seems to know what he's talking about as it's all gibberish to me.

No it is pretty much just all nonsense.  Such is the way of the head-fi poster.

What part of it do you consider nonsense?  It's not helpful to anyone looking to create a rockbox port, I agree... but what is your reasoning behind calling it nonsense?

[saratoga]

What part of it do you consider nonsense?  

All of it, aside from the chip label number.

It's not helpful to anyone looking to create a rockbox port, I agree... but what is your reasoning behind calling it nonsense?

Its not helpful to anyone ever.  Its just a lot of self important speculation dressed up with big words.  Theres no information in there whatsoever.  

[gnychis]

i don't even see any big words involved.  DAC? CODEC? caps? voltage? these are big words?

I'm just saying, theres no need to call it nonsense.  Someone opened it up, and reported what they saw.  It's more than us "guessing" what's underneath the box.  We aren't discussing the sound quality, we're discussing the hardware.  The information is not useful to rockbox, but it's useful to others.  You can call it non-helpful, but to call it nonsense is dumb.