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new ipods - rockbox port proposal

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AlexP:
We have relativly few iPod developers at all, and even fewer 5.5G ones.  Besides the battery live issue is not just a 5.5G one, it affects all players that use the same chipset.

For current iPods we would need documentation from PortalPlayer, which would mean a wacking great NDA.  For newer iPods (probably, certainly the Nano 2G) it means documentation from Samsung, which means a wacking great NDA....

Bottom line, we will have to live without documentation.

LambdaCalculus:
I'm one of the very few 5.5G users here that has even a shred of programming experience. I downloaded the source for Rockbox for the very purpose of learning how a full-fledged system like this works.

I would love to help resolve the battery life issue with the 5.5G iPods, but until I learn some more C (and learn embedded systems programming!), the best I can do is talk with everyone here and see if maybe our combined knowledge can find a solution to the problem.

countach:
So, things like this:

http://www.warthman.com/projects-portalplayer-pp5001-ds.htm

...are impossible to get, even paying?

LambdaCalculus:
What BigBambi was explaining earlier is that many of these companies will sign their documentation over to you, but there's always going be catches like:

1) "I agree that I will not share this documentation with anyone, nor will I make it available online, blah-de-blah..."
2) "I must agree that these data sheets can be revoked from me at any time,"
3) "I must agree that these documents will not be used for illicit activities. (note: which they will think Rockbox is)"

That's just the start of it. Like BigBambi said: wacking great NDA...

AlexP:
You can get them, but you must agree to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement, which means not sharing them with anyone else, disclosing what is in them etc.  This usually (with rare exceptions) means not publishing open source code based on them.

Believe me, if we could get the documentation (and legally use it) we would love it.  It isn't just that we haven't thought of it.

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