Boottimes

[perfectdrug]

Hey Rockboxers,
I would like to know which boot times every Rockbox-capable player has.
I haven't seen any table of this information yet, and I would like to create one.
As Lorrean said please: "RESET YOUR SETTINGS BEFORE TIMING"


Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 v1 (disk):   19 seconds
Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 v1 (ROM):   5 seconds
Ondio FM (ROM)                                     3 seconds
Iriver h1xx (disk):                                 10 seconds
Iriver h1xx (ROM):                                 6 seconds
Iriver H3xx:                                          8 seconds
Ipod Mini 2G:                                        6 seconds
iPod Video:                                           8 seconds
Sansa e200:                                         7 seconds
Gigabeat F:                                          8 seconds

[bluebrother]

Iriver h120 (disk): 10 sec
Iriver h120 (ROM): 6 sec
Ipod Mini 2G: 6 sec

all times are measured from pressing the power button until the browser shows up.

[Febs]

iPod Video 60GB:  8 seconds.

[AlexP]

Gigabeat F60 - 7 secs from holding on button, 4.5 seconds from the player beginning to start (you have to hold the on button for ages (not rockbox's fault)).

Edit - redid having reset settings!

[rmahoney]

Sansa e240 - 7 seconds

[psycho_maniac]

ipod 5.5g 80gb, my settings  - 23 seconds
ipod 5.5g 80gb, default settings - 8 seconds
(this is from the apple logo till the music plays)

[Llorean]

Please, everyone RESET YOUR SETTINGS BEFORE TIMING.

Themes can greatly increase the boot time. As has just been shown, I suspect.

[LambdaCalculus]

iPod video 5.5G, 30GB, using DOSblue theme - 14.8 seconds from Apple logo to Resume Playback.
(Same as above, with default settings - roughly 7.3 seconds from Apple logo to Resume Playback)

Archos Jukebox Recorder 20, v1, flashed with SVN build r14373-070816 - 5 seconds from power on to Resume Playback

I can only imagine what it would be like when flashing Rockbox to any DAP is a reality...

[AlexP]

Rockbox can currently (although not yet officialy) be flashed to the H1x0 series.

[LambdaCalculus]

I don't own any iriver device (my girlfriend does), but I want to wait for it to be official before I give it that kind of bench test.

[Llorean]

I haven't run a real timing, but the last time I checked, on my Nano with Rockbox in the firmware partition I was getting boot times in the 2-3 second range.

[LambdaCalculus]

Yowza! That's even better than a flashed Archos device!

But now I'm curious, Llorean. How did you install Rockbox to the firmware partition of your nano? That sounds like something I'd like to look into for my own iPod.

[Llorean]

Remember, Nanos have no spinup time so they have a bit of an advantage here.

Note: I ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU MANAGE TO CREATE AN UNBOOTING IPOD AND MUST USE APPLE RESTORE. THIS IS SAFE IF DONE PROPERLY, AND IF DONE COMPLETELY IMPROPERLY WILL ONLY REQUIRE A RESTORE (MANUAL OR APPLE)

There's two ways you can do it. You can use ipodpatcher -a to add rockbox.ipod as a bootloader. It doesn't really work as a bootloader, but this SHOULD reposition your Apple firmware so that you can later remover the Rockbox binary and have a functioning iPod. Of course you'll have to use this every time you want to update builds.

As well, if you remove the bootloader (clean, no-Rockbox iPod) then use iPodpatcher -wf rockbox.ipod, you can overwrite the firmware with Rockbox. Both of these methods prevent dual boot, and I'd *strongly* recommend using the -rf option in iPodPatcher to read your AppleOS into a file first so that you can restore it later. Again, the second method obviously requires updating it in the firmware partition every time you want a new build.

[LambdaCalculus]

Remember, Nanos have no spinup time so they have a bit of an advantage here.

Note: I ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU MANAGE TO CREATE AN UNBOOTING IPOD AND MUST USE APPLE RESTORE. THIS IS SAFE IF DONE PROPERLY, AND IF DONE COMPLETELY IMPROPERLY WILL ONLY REQUIRE A RESTORE (MANUAL OR APPLE)

There's two ways you can do it. You can use ipodpatcher -a to add rockbox.ipod as a bootloader. It doesn't really work as a bootloader, but this SHOULD reposition your Apple firmware so that you can later remover the Rockbox binary and have a functioning iPod. Of course you'll have to use this every time you want to update builds.

As well, if you remove the bootloader (clean, no-Rockbox iPod) then use iPodpatcher -wf rockbox.ipod, you can overwrite the firmware with Rockbox. Both of these methods prevent dual boot, and I'd *strongly* recommend using the -rf option in iPodPatcher to read your AppleOS into a file first so that you can restore it later. Again, the second method obviously requires updating it in the firmware partition every time you want a new build.

Llorean, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. If I bork my iPod, it would be my fault for messing something up, not yours. I won't hold blame on you, at all.

Actually, the process doesn't sound so hard. But I'll get a guinea pig to play with first, and run the process on that. Besides, I don't care about dual boot one bit, since I have no need for the Apple firmware, anyway. My iPod is running Rockbox every step of the way.

One more question, however: this does not affect the Emergency Disk Mode, am I correct?

[Llorean]

This in no way affects emergency disk mode. The disclaimer was mainly there so that nobody else says "Well someone official said you could do this" or whatnot.

It's really quite safe, I've switched my iPod frequently to no-bootloader-no-appleOS for one reason or another, but right now always switch back because on the Nano the emergency disk mode is ridiculously slow.