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Offline adicm

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iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« on: August 23, 2007, 05:24:59 PM »
Hi everybody.... I was searching at this in the forum, but I was unable to find similar problems.  

When I'm in front of my work station, I use foobar to play the music of my iPod as a portable drive.  I has found something a little strange.  When I connect the ipod with the rockbox firmware, I get a black and withe screen saing "do not disconnect" or something.   A couple of days ago, a friend of mine see my iPod and take it to see it better.  The connection was almost inmediatly get lost, and the ipod show the "OK to disconnect" message.  I thougth that I had a defective usb cable, and borrow another one, from a friend that don't use rockbox, and never have has this problem. The problem was still in my ipod, and no matter the cable I use if I move the ipod when connected, the connection  gets lost.

Yesterday, I connect the ipod, but directly from the apple firmware.  I get the red message "Don not disconnect" (the apple one).  I have been moving my ipod (in a not so tender way), but It just stay connected...  I was wonder...  Is it possible that Rockbox is having a problem when I move my ipod that cuts the comunication?  I don't want to swith to the apple firmware every time I connect the ipod tho a pc,  and to rockbox qhen i'm goning to listen to it...

Thanks for your help and regards...

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Offline Chronon

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 05:28:37 PM »
The Disk Mode is all Apple code.  Rockbox has nothing to do with anything the iPod does once a USB connection is established.  Maybe the full USB mode in the firmware has better fault tolerance and can recover from brief interruptions better.
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 06:14:46 PM »
is there a rockbox diskmode being coded at all for the ipods? i know the diskmode that  rockbox uses now is apples emergency disk mode.
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Offline adicm

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 06:26:21 PM »
Yeah!  I thougth the same, but after this, I don't know...  I just want to know if this is possible or not, in order to know where  the problem could be, in the cables, in my ipod connection port or if it is possible that it be in the rockbox code (someway, somehow...)
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Offline Chronon

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 07:39:27 PM »
It's all Apple's code at that point.  

There are definitely differences in the USB handler between the flash Disk Mode and the Disk Mode in the firmware (color Do Not Disconnect).  For one thing data transfers are MUCH faster in the firmware Disk Mode.  So it wouldn't surprise me if there were other differences as well.  This still has nothing to do with Rockbox, however.
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Offline GodEater

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2007, 03:48:40 AM »
USB support in Rockbox is one of the GSOC projects which is now winding up. It's getting closer every day.
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Offline adicm

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 09:50:01 AM »
Well,  thanks for your help.... I guess I will have to switch the firmware (not really a big deal) until the amazing rockbox developers start to work in the USB... ;)

Have a nice day!
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Offline yegods

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2007, 06:54:49 PM »
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USB support in Rockbox is one of the GSOC projects which is now winding up. It's getting closer every day.

this project looks great... but it doesn't seem to address the ipod USB problem.  am i missing something?
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Offline linuxstb

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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2007, 07:07:39 PM »
Quote from: yegods on August 28, 2007, 06:54:49 PM
this project looks great... but it doesn't seem to address the ipod USB problem.  am i missing something?

What you mean by "the ipod USB problem"?
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 08:13:58 PM »
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What you mean by "the ipod USB problem"?

the problem that the only way rockbox can use USB is by rebooting the ipod into an emergency disk mode, that is slow.  that problem.
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2007, 11:04:15 PM »
Well, the reason that the iPod uses emergency disk mode is because Rockbox doesn't have it's own USB driver. Once it does, the emergency disk mode won't be necessary.
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2007, 11:52:25 PM »
There have been some commits regarding USB on the PP targets, but I think you need to compile a build yourself. Hopefully this means OSBOTG is on the way too. :)
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2007, 06:47:19 AM »
Quote from: Mad Cow on August 28, 2007, 11:52:25 PM
There have been some commits regarding USB on the PP targets, but I think you need to compile a build yourself.

It is just for testing.  If you are expecting to have it act as your disk mode, you are sorely mistaken.  ;)
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2007, 11:06:17 AM »
Quote from: scorche on August 29, 2007, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: Mad Cow on August 28, 2007, 11:52:25 PM
There have been some commits regarding USB on the PP targets, but I think you need to compile a build yourself.

It is just for testing.  If you are expecting to have it act as your disk mode, you are sorely mistaken.  ;)

But can it get recognized by your OS at least? I kind of figured it wasn't completely ready yet.
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Re: iPod usb cable disconnects ONLY with rockbox
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2007, 01:34:22 PM »
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Well, the reason that the iPod uses emergency disk mode is because Rockbox doesn't have it's own USB driver. Once it does, the emergency disk mode won't be necessary.

okay, if that is true, then color me excited!  i'm tired of the SLOW USB.
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