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Sansa E200: Help with remote control

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epithetless:

--- Quote from: moxfyre on June 25, 2009, 03:38:40 AM ---The Sansa Base Station offers an infrared remote to control Sansa Players, along with mini-USB and 3.5mm audio out jack.  It is $50, which is rather steep in my opinion.  To my knowledge, this is the only accessory that offers remote control of Sansas.
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With the thought that it might expand this thread's noble pursuit in some way, I just wanted to add a couple more accessories to the list of ones that dock the Sansa and feature remotes:

- Altec Lansing's inMotion iM413 Portable Audio System
- Timex's TS70B Clock Radio

I own the former, but I don't believe there's an easily reversible way to open it up and inspect the internals. I'll give it another look and see if I can come up with anything, though.

moxfyre:

--- Quote from: epithetless on June 25, 2009, 02:12:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: moxfyre on June 25, 2009, 03:38:40 AM ---The Sansa Base Station offers an infrared remote to control Sansa Players, along with mini-USB and 3.5mm audio out jack.  It is $50, which is rather steep in my opinion.  To my knowledge, this is the only accessory that offers remote control of Sansas.
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With the thought that it might expand this thread's noble pursuit in some way, I just wanted to add a couple more accessories to the list of ones that dock the Sansa and feature remotes:

- Altec Lansing's inMotion iM413 Portable Audio System
- Timex's TS70B Clock Radio
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Ah!  Good to know that there are other accessories offering remote control.  Hopefully at least one is easily reverse-engineer-able!   8)


--- Quote ---I own the former, but I don't believe there's an easily reversible way to open it up and inspect the internals. I'll give it another look and see if I can come up with anything, though.
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Cool!  If you could even figure out which of the dock pins are actually connected to the base station, that'd probably be a huge boost... I've got my money on pins 24-26 being the serial port, based on popping my e200 open and finding visible traces to those pins with no documentation to be found.

UPDATE:

Some material that may help, and for comparative purposes:

* What the inside of the Griffin Powerdock for Sansa looks like (including the seemingly important requirement of a 47k resistor between +5V and pin 7, to enable line-out via the dock connector, at least with stock firmware)
* For comparison, the iPods use various values of resistors between pin 21 and ground to enable different kinds of accessories, including serial communications
* Here's a great guide to the iPod serial protocol, which is basically 8N2 RS232 with CMOS line levels.  It links to a pinout showing the dock pins that need to be jumped to enable the serial communications.
I would expect that we're looking for something similar in the Sansa Base Station, or the Timex or Altec Lansing docks with remote controls.  By process of elimination, there should be:

* Power connections to pins 1,2 (+5 V) and 3,6 (GND)
* USB data connections to pins 4,5 (USB data +/-)
* Audio connections to 27,28,29,30
* 47k resistor between +5V and pin 7 (likely cue to signal use of a line-out dock)
* Two or three other pins connected to the microcontroller: must be the serial protocol.
So if anyone can look inside a dock with a remote, this is probably what you should be looking for.[/list][/list]

nilreb:
I don't know whether this could be useful. I made a picture of a base station's board. Because i also don't know, whether it is allowed to upload pictures here, i uploaded it to imageshack.

The other side of the board doesn't have any components.

Dark Horse:
I have just bought Altec Lansing's inMotion iM413 Portable Audio System and would like to get the remote working. so I have a system to test software when someone has a patch to test.   ;D

Dark Horse:
Bump? I really would like to get this remote working with rockbox I just don't know where to start .  I have a connect that does not respond to the remote but my sansa e200s do in the OF .( I don't have a c200 or a View to test with) Pins for the data cable can be found here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SanDiskSansae2x0PortPins
How can I test  pins 24,25,26 to find out if they are an rs 232 data port?

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