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Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root

I'm strongly against it for my own private personal reasons!
123 (62.1%)
I dont mind, I wouldnt use it
18 (9.1%)
I'm strongly against it for my own private personal reasons!
36 (18.2%)
I wish I could bake a cake made from rainbows and give everyone a piece.
21 (10.6%)

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Offline hshah

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2005, 01:56:57 AM »
In the long run, is it possible to configure all these buttons ourselves through the settings on the iRiver?
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Offline Mr. Brownstone

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2005, 05:26:24 AM »
I can't stand having to press LEFT dozens of times to get back to the WPS on my iRiver H300.

Man, I can't wait for this firmware. ;)
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Offline RowaN

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2005, 06:04:43 AM »
If both play AND left (currently unused) took you from root to WPS.. everyone would be happy?
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Offline LinusN

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2005, 06:08:36 AM »
Personally, I think the Play button should do what the button says, play the file (or enter the directory). IMHO we need to rethink the entire button scheme on the iriver.
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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2005, 06:59:09 AM »
I'd agree with that Linus.

Perhaps 'Rec' could be used to replace 'Play' as the return to WPS button. Don't think it does anything in file browser. If i'm mistaken maybe a long press would be better?
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Offline Neff

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2005, 07:29:23 AM »
Quote from: LinusN on August 10, 2005, 06:08:36 AM
Personally, I think the Play button should do what the button says, play the file (or enter the directory). IMHO we need to rethink the entire button scheme on the iriver.
And just to confuse matters there are still some places where you are prompted to press play to confirm when it means press select (e.g. recursive insert of a directory to a playlist). I think I've seen others but can't remember where at the moment.
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Offline Bagder

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2005, 07:42:17 AM »
I disagree. I think the play button on iriver should be used as the ON button is used on other models. Which it is now...
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Offline Mikerman

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2005, 08:39:15 AM »
IMHO, it would be great if the button configuration could be made as consistent as possible, and if matters could be as one-handed as possible for play-like functions, focusing on the joystick once play has begun, to avoid "finger disruption."

I wonder if some further use of the joystick could be made.  For example, in iRiver, to advance from folder to folder while in play mode, one could do a short right (or left) press of the joystick followed by a long--would be great if this could be utilized in Rockbox for this function (which is a great one  ;D) as well as others in other modes.  For example, in scrolling thru lists, couldn't this short-long press combination be used to scroll thru screens rather than the list one by one, or to scroll thru the list by the letters of the alphabet (which would be great)?  Or couldn't an up/down short-long combination press be used for options as well?

Also, I don't know if this is the place for it (but what the heck), but might the iRiver's A-B play loop function be possible with Rockbox?  That actually seemed to make sense using the A-B function, as one's hands already would be off the player when deciding to use it.  This is a good function for studying music.  Perhaps it could be moved to the record button, where it also would make sense in light of the functions use being made of the A-B button (or the functions uses could be moved to the record button--if that wouldn't get in the way of later recording uses).
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Offline kenshin

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 11:12:10 AM »
Quote from: Mikerman on August 10, 2005, 08:39:15 AM
Also, I don't know if this is the place for it (but what the heck), but might the iRiver's A-B play loop function be possible with Rockbox?

I don't know about anyone else, but I always hated that looping. It was slow and if you happened to doze for a split second while your target was active you had to loop through the whole damn list again. I'm quite fond of the Rockbox A-B implementation (is this the "Quick Menu"?).
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Offline OtisFunkmeyer

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2005, 12:03:54 PM »
Quote from: kenshin on August 10, 2005, 11:12:10 AM
Quote from: Mikerman on August 10, 2005, 08:39:15 AM
Also, I don't know if this is the place for it (but what the heck), but might the iRiver's A-B play loop function be possible with Rockbox?

I don't know about anyone else, but I always hated that looping. It was slow and if you happened to doze for a split second while your target was active you had to loop through the whole damn list again. I'm quite fond of the Rockbox A-B implementation (is this the "Quick Menu"?).

No, the a-b loop refers to picking a start (a) and stop (b) time in a song so you can loop that selection of music, like a sampler.  I, too wish this was implemented in rockbox.  It is handy for hip hop producers looking for loops, and deejays, as well as musicians learning songs.
pitch and speed adjustment would be amazing also.  Iriver firmware has pitch adjust, but it's very rough.
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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2005, 07:08:19 AM »
I agree with daniel on this one.
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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2005, 10:52:18 AM »
Quote from: OtisFunkmeyer on August 10, 2005, 12:03:54 PM
No, the a-b loop refers to picking a start (a) and stop (b) time in a song so you can loop that selection of music, like a sampler.

Ah. Never used it before. Never will. But by all means, if someone wants to code it, put it in somehow.
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Offline bigtrouble77

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2005, 03:39:11 PM »
Just thought I'd say that I like the way the buttons currently configured.  There's alot less mis-clicking the way it is now.  I really hated the iriver feature of clicking left at root to bring up the song info- when clicking quicky through songs I would always mistakingly get to that screen and have to start over.  Maybe adding that as an option would make everyone happy, but I wouldn't set it as default.

The only thing I have a big problem with is how difficult it is to create and save playlists.  Maybe i'm just not used to it yet but I'm constantly overwriting playlists as I try to create them, adding directories I don't want and having difficulty saving them properly.  I attribute this mostly to not knowing what buttons to click at each step.  Maybe I should keep notes...
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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2005, 02:13:32 AM »
i dont like looping much either. ive used it to listen to something very funny like a thousand times when im wasted but other than that i dont use it. i also think that the scheme of the buttons needs to rethought. mabey we could have an area where people vote for what does what and the most voted for will be chosen?
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Offline muesli

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2005, 08:09:44 AM »
there's a little red=stop button called record. would be fine to define this one as the default for exiting ANY menu. play and stop imho shouldn't be assigned twice: always to be used as their names indicate
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