Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root

[Febs]

If you mean the 'main menu,' press 'Menu.'

There is no menu in Rockbox called the root menu.  You really should read through the first few chapers of the Rockbox Manual.  It explains how to get to each menu.

[xxtechn9ne]

i figured it out  i just switched from database to all to get back to the menu i was talking about thanks again febs

[Febs]

That's the File Browser, not a menu.

[iwantanimac]

As much as i didn't like this patch before, it grew on me when i was kinda forced to use it by the newest Angryman_H10 custom build for the H10, and now i like it.

[psycho_maniac]

as long as its an option and the default setting is set to  "no" i could really care less if its in  the curent build., but i can see the arguments and agree with why its not in the current build.

[Mikerman]

Given the (controversy) over this feature, I can't easily envision anyone committing it to Rockbox (but, hey, stranger things happen in life--witness the last U.S. presidential election).  But I find it interesting and somewhat informative (if not humorous) how this thread simply will not die out.

[markun]

... left-to-WPS still would seem helpful, ergonomically.

2) left currently does nothing at the root menu, so why not allow it to do something

I wouldn't probably use that root menu.

As for the root menu, I don't quite like the WPS entry there.

What do you guys think of it now it's implemented? Any suggestions for improvements?

[bascule]

Although I was never convinced that left-to-WPS was a Good Thing^TM, I also didn't think I'd like the root menu. However, I was wrong.

For me personally it allows easy navigation between File Browser and Database, using only the joystick on my H120, which I find quicker and easier than the Quick Menu (YMMV ).

You can still startup on any screen you like.

For new users, especially the great number of new iPod users who say 'Where's the menu', 'Why can't I see anything' it should improve their immediate 'User Experience' impressions of Rockbox.

I think, although many will see it as unecessary, that it improves the professional presentation of the software.

I know there are many valid opposing views here, but for me it makes Rockbox even better

EDIT:
With apologies to the poster concerned, but this is an example from this very thread of what I was talking about

i figured it out ; I just switched from database to all to get back to the menu i was talking about thanks again febs

That's the File Browser, not a menu.

[Llorean]

The Main Menu presentation also helps to move from appearing to be an Operating System (where the main concentration is file access and interaction with files / stored data) to a Firmware (you're now essentially given a list saying 'here are the main things this device can do').

[keuleJ]

I think the new main menu is just great!
And for those who don't like it, they can choose another start screen, great!

[Mikerman]

Am just getting up to speed with the new root menu; need to play with it some more.

One thing I noted and that I've seen some comment on is that there are certain keys that seem to remain unused on the H-1xx players, that could be taken advantage of for shortcuts and the like.  (I guess this player is blessed with numerous keys.)  For example, a long press of the REC button (long needing an assignment); a long press of the A-B button from the root menu; a short press of the A-B button from the root menu when nothing is playing (or, when it is, this key assignment potentially could be reassigned, as it duplicates a press of the PLAY button); a long press of the PLAY button.

Some "naturals" might be for a long press of the REC button to be used as a shortcut for the recording screen (or for A-B looping? or a long press of PLAY could be used for that), and for a long press of A-B to get to settings (which often seems helpful to get to).  

Now please don't scream, and although I've been using PLAY to get back to the WPS screen, I still miss left-to-WPS--it's just so easy to use (although I understand the issue for people with vision issues and a possible mistaken extra press) . . .

Of course, having said all this and while I would like to see shortcuts committed if that were possible, to take full advantage of the "extra keys," I commend the devs for the root menu!

[Llorean]

I think most of us agree a long press of Record should go to the Record screen.

You should play with A-B a little more though. It doesn't reproduce the play button. It invokes and banishes the root menu. Which means it can seem very, very much like it's duplicating the play button if you only ever use A-B from the WPS, and then a second time. But try going to the filetree, hitting A-B to call up the root menu, and hitting it again. Do this while music's playing if you'd like, or not, it shouldn't matter. You should end up back in the filetree.

A-B is basically "Root menu On/Off" while Play is "Resume playback if necessary, then go to the WPS". There is a small amount of overlap, but the majority of their functionality is independent.

[Llorean]

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