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Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
markun:
I have a question for all you left-to-WPS lovers :)
In the rockbox IRC channel we have been talking about a root menu. It would be a menu containing: browse files, WPS, settings menu, FM radio, recording, plugins etc.
When you start rockbox it would show this menu, also pressing left in the file browser and settings menu would return here. The MENU button would always take you there.
There would also be an option to start rockbox in one of the menu items by default (which is now only possible for the recording screen)
Now the question is, if it was implemented like this, would you guys still want the WPS to be the root of this root menu or would it be fine like this?
goffa:
I'm to the point where i don't care if i have to patch as long as the patch works. But my main reason for advocating left to wps is this:
1) I have different players, different buttons are in different locations. So, pressing a different button to get to wps equals frustration at times
If WPS was on the root menu, as a top menu option, i guess that would accomplish the same thing in terms of useability. However, it's kind of a moot point in light of the code size argument.
2) left currently does nothing at the root menu, so why not allow it to do something
Mikerman:
In trying to conceptualize the change, I noted that, environmentally, I seem to use the left-to-WPS patch (1) because I'm used to it, moreso than using the play button to get to the WPS (with the "press play for WPS" patch, which I also have), but (2) also when it simply is easier to move the joystick to the left rather than reaching around to use the play button. This latter circumstance tends to be when the player is on my crowded desk facing me and it is easier to reach the front of the player than the side, and when the player is facing me in the car, when I'm driving, and, again, it is easier to reach the player's front.
Operationally, I seem to use left-to-WPS when I am playing music and have entered the browser/file list, to delete a file or see what else is there. Left-to-WPS and I am back to the WPS.
In that circumstance, and while I like the set-up being considered (it always seemed incomplete to me that there was no "Table of Contents" type screen in Rockbox, although it is not necessary and could be seen as adding a step, perhaps), left-to-WPS still would seem helpful, ergonomically.
I wonder if a worthy (and relatively complication-free) option is a form of that mentioned in a post above: left would take one to the Table of Contents screen, but then a further long left press (which feature could be turned on in the configuration options) would take one to the WPS. It seemed, from the above, that this could be implemented with minimal code or complication, and that this would not interfere with use by those with vision issues.
Also, if I understand the set-up being considered, it would "add" a step to get back to the WPS, by having to go thru the Table of Contents screen. Left-to-WPS would seem to be an easy means by which to get back to the WPS with minimal effort and steps (as both the left-to-WPS and play button patches try to do now).
Just some humble thoughts; thank you for soliciting and considering them.
fml2:
--- Quote from: markun on January 26, 2007, 09:14:56 AM ---Now the question is, if it was implemented like this, would you guys still want the WPS to be the root of this root menu or would it be fine like this?
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I wouldn't probably use that root menu. For me, it's just fine that RB starts in the file browser. And I don't consider the WPS the 'root' screen. But when music is playing (and the WPS is displayed), when I press NAVI (on my H120) to bring up the file browser it feels like menu. And if a menu is displayed from WPS I can go back to WPS by just pressing LEFT. I know that the file browser is not a menu. But it just feels like that (for me) when called up from WPS. That's the only reason I'd like the 'left to WPS' feature be implemented. Consistency, in a sense. Like Llorean. But seen a little bit differently. IMHO 'left to WPS' should not start playback if music is not playing. It should work like menu: if you went to file browser from WPS (like menu) you should return to WPS by pressing LEFT sufficient number of times. If the file browser is the 'main' screen (not called up as a menu), pressing LEFT in the root should do nothing.
As for the root menu, I don't quite like the WPS entry there. What would it do? Start the playback? What song then? Its purpose is not completely clear IMHO.
xxtechn9ne:
hello everyone i am a rockbox noob and i am having trouble getting to the root menu with my ipod 5g. how do i get back to the root menu?? thanks your help is appreciated
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