Support and General Use > User Interface and Voice
Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
Yotto:
I would call it *less* usable, as an accidental 2 presses of "Play" from the root will pause your audio, while two accidental presses of "left" (at least on an iPod) will restart your track from the start, likely without letting you see where it was. Sorry, man, just search through that 2-hour-long podcast for where you were.
stuffedspacedog:
--- Quote from: Llorean on October 15, 2006, 11:33:27 AM ---I still don't really understand how "Left" is any more usable than "Play" for getting to the WPS from the file root.
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Because on the joystick remote, "play" involves pushing down a multi function rocker switch, and it's easy to mess up. Generally I find "Left" more usable because it means all regular functions can be performed using only the joystick, either on the remote or the main player. For me that makes operating the H100 cleaner and simpler.
Mmmm:
--- Quote from: Llorean on October 15, 2006, 11:33:27 AM ---I still don't really understand how "Left" is any more usable than "Play" for getting to the WPS from the file root.
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I think the reason left is preferred to play by some users is that people think of the WPS as being the main screen and that you exit the file browser to get to the WPS. The left button is the 'go back' button so when you get to the root, if you press left it should go back to the WPS. Whereas the play button is for playing a track or turning on the player, it doesn't naturally feel like it should exit the file browser.
If you think of the structure like this, even though it is incorrect, the left button makes sense.
But of course, it is wrong :D
Paul Slocum:
I think that pressing left from the root should go to a main menu for the unit that includes "Radio", "Record", "File Browser", "Settings" etc. And then another left from there returns to the WPS. This gives one level of padding again accidentally jumping from the root to the WPS, and makes the overall UI structure a tree, which is easier for novice users to understand and navigate.
The inconsistent buttons and haphazard UI nagivation is iRiver is in serious need of improvement. I'm glad to see some work towards improving this lately.
The problem of accidentally jumping to the WPS and resetting the track to the beginning can be avoided by putting a short delay before allowing the joystick to be used to reset tracks after returning to the WPS in this manner. There are probably other areas where the UI can use some kind of tricky polishing like this.
-paul
goffa:
I've been using Mmmm's build on my h140 for a while now. I have to say, after using it, he's applied the right patches. The player is infinitely more usable.
Left to wps from root has become one of my most used features. That, and the one button queuing.
I'd like to see both of these applied to the default rockbox cvs builds. Left to WPS could be toggleable so it wouldn't affect the users who do not wish to utilize the feature. That should satisfy both the anti- and pro- camps.
That's my 2 cents.
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