Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root

[Llorean]

You can also adjust the volume from the menus. I believe it's in the sound settings menu...

[Massa]

I also vote for inclusion of patch 5294!

And I don't think it's a good idea to change the behaviour of left press at the root directory!

[Mr. Brownstone]

It's a good patch, and I use it.

I'd sooner see the whole interface redesigned than have LEFT go to the WPS, though.

[Mikerman]

The patch (5294) would be nice, for consistency.

[rossy!]

Id love for the entire key configuration to be editable from a text file. Then people could choose the buttons that feel best.

[rdtyphn]

Sorry to be a bother, but the Left2root patch Linus remade no longer works.  If someone could point me to a version that works I would be very grateful.

[stuffedspacedog]

Here you go:

http://www.logic.at/people/preining/iriver/patches/left-go-to-wps-np.patch

[Mikerman]

Many thanks for the update!

[stuffedspacedog]

I have used this patch since it was introduced, and it makes a huge difference to usability on the H100, particularly when using the joystick remote, I can't imagine using Rockbox without it.

However I accept that the usability of the patch is very much dependent on button layout on each player, so don't believe it should go into CVS.

I only use two patches, this one, and the "more responsive skip" patch (FS#6052), plus a few modifications to the native bitmaps.

Latest update (from Norbusan's custom build for the H300):

http://www.logic.at/people/preining/iriver/patches/left-go-to-wps-np.patch

[Llorean]

I still don't really understand how "Left" is any more usable than "Play" for getting to the WPS from the file root.

[Yotto]

I would call it *less* usable, as an accidental 2 presses of "Play" from the root will pause your audio, while two accidental presses of "left" (at least on an iPod) will restart your track from the start, likely without letting you see where it was.  Sorry, man, just search through that 2-hour-long podcast for where you were.

[stuffedspacedog]

I still don't really understand how "Left" is any more usable than "Play" for getting to the WPS from the file root.

Because on the joystick remote, "play" involves pushing down a multi function rocker switch, and it's easy to mess up.  Generally I find "Left" more usable because it means all regular functions can be performed using only the joystick, either on the remote or the main player.  For me that makes operating the H100 cleaner and simpler.

[Mmmm]

I still don't really understand how "Left" is any more usable than "Play" for getting to the WPS from the file root.

I think the reason left is preferred to play by some users is that people think of the WPS as being the main screen and that you exit the file browser to get to the WPS. The left button is the 'go back' button so when you get to the root, if you press left it should go back to the WPS. Whereas the play button is for playing a track or turning on the player, it doesn't naturally feel like it should exit the file browser.

If you think of the structure like this, even though it is incorrect, the left button makes sense.
But of course, it is wrong

[Paul Slocum]

I think that pressing left from the root should go to a main menu for the unit that includes "Radio", "Record", "File Browser", "Settings" etc.  And then another left from there returns to the WPS.  This gives one level of padding again accidentally jumping from the root to the WPS, and makes the overall UI structure a tree, which is easier for novice users to understand and navigate.  

The inconsistent buttons and haphazard UI nagivation is iRiver is in serious need of improvement.  I'm glad to see some work towards improving this lately.

The problem of accidentally jumping to the WPS and resetting the track to the beginning can be avoided by putting a short delay before allowing the joystick to be used to reset tracks after returning to the WPS in this manner.  There are probably other areas where the UI can use some kind of tricky polishing like this.

-paul

[goffa]

I've been using Mmmm's build on my h140 for a while now. I have to say, after using it, he's applied the right patches.  The player is infinitely more usable.

Left to wps from root has become one of my most used features. That, and the one button queuing.

I'd like to see both of these applied to the default rockbox cvs builds. Left to WPS could be toggleable so it wouldn't affect the users who do not wish to utilize the feature.  That should satisfy both the anti- and pro- camps.

That's my 2 cents.