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Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root

I'm strongly against it for my own private personal reasons!
123 (62.1%)
I dont mind, I wouldnt use it
18 (9.1%)
I'm strongly against it for my own private personal reasons!
36 (18.2%)
I wish I could bake a cake made from rainbows and give everyone a piece.
21 (10.6%)

Total Members Voted: 186

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Offline Llorean

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #135 on: June 22, 2006, 04:19:17 PM »
Play-to-WPS seems better, since if music isn't playing that's what it does in filetree (resuming playback if it's not active.) Besides, with that functionality a user can always pause playback by a mere two presses of play anyway. ;)
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Offline Crasus

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #136 on: June 22, 2006, 08:42:01 PM »
Quote from: Febs on June 22, 2006, 09:50:31 AM
... there is a patch on the patchtracker that gives the Play button the "go to WPS" functionality from just about anywhere, and this patch will likely be committed to CVS as soon as someone tests it on Archos platforms.

Hi. I tried finding the patch referenced above but had no luck. Could somone point me in the right direction?
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #137 on: June 23, 2006, 11:45:41 AM »
Quote from: Crasus on June 22, 2006, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: Febs on June 22, 2006, 09:50:31 AM
... there is a patch on the patchtracker that gives the Play button the "go to WPS" functionality from just about anywhere, and this patch will likely be committed to CVS as soon as someone tests it on Archos platforms.

Hi. I tried finding the patch referenced above but had no luck. Could somone point me in the right direction?

here you go:
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5294
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Offline rdtyphn

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #138 on: July 23, 2006, 02:43:43 PM »
I'm trying to find a patch that would allow me to access the wps by pressing left in the root menu.  I downloaded the patch linusn created on page 4 of this thread, but when I try to use the patch it gives me an error about the tree.c in the vmware window.  When i load up the patched firmware, it does not work.
TIA for help.
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Offline Mikerman

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #139 on: July 23, 2006, 08:22:48 PM »
that has been a wonderful patch, and I really wish it had been accepted into the software--a small thing that is wonderful.
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Offline LinusN

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #140 on: July 24, 2006, 03:02:34 AM »
Quote from: Mikerman on July 23, 2006, 08:22:48 PM
that has been a wonderful patch, and I really wish it had been accepted into the software--a small thing that is wonderful.
That "wonderful" thing is a nightmare for blind people. You try to go to the root, and click Left one time too many, and suddenly you're back in the WPS.

BTW, here is an updated patch:


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Offline Mikerman

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #141 on: July 24, 2006, 02:00:26 PM »
Thanks, and an interesting point for accessability.
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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #142 on: July 24, 2006, 04:00:06 PM »
think this will ever get commited to cvs? this would be a good patch if it were an option in the menu. so then blind people wont go to the wps on accident.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #143 on: July 24, 2006, 04:00:43 PM »
Out of curiosity, what makes "Left" easier to press than "Play"?
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Offline Febs

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #144 on: July 24, 2006, 05:16:24 PM »
... especially considering that 'play' works from anywhere in the file browser, while 'left' works from only one specific screen.
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Offline Mikerman

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #145 on: July 24, 2006, 06:26:37 PM »
Ya' know, I keep on wondering that myself, given the reasons you note above.  Maybe because the select button is easily reach in front rather than the play button on the side, which is slightly harder to get to?  Maybe because still, despite how I know Rockbox is set up, it feels like going all the way to the "beginning" is to the WPS and not the file listing (perhaps because for me as a user, the primary purpose of the player is to hear music, and that's what the WPS reflects)?

But there definitely is something psychological going on there, at least for me (at least at times), it seems.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 06:28:13 PM by Mikerman »
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Offline Febs

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #146 on: July 24, 2006, 07:49:17 PM »
The Play button is on the side only for the H100 platform and maybe the X5.  The H300, all ipods and all Archos platforms have the buttons on the front, so this is a non-issue.
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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #147 on: July 24, 2006, 08:42:22 PM »
Um, a non-issue for those other players and their users, right?  ;)

I think that different architectures often suggest different solution abilities.

And I wonder if there's still a psychological thing going on, with those other players and their users as well.  Again, and I don't know why, pressing left to get back to the WPS just feels right for some reason.  I think there has to be a reason why almost 2/3rds of the people in the poll above feel that way.  (Did iRiver do it that way?  I can't even recall at this point.  Maybe we've been brainwashed.)
« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 08:44:26 PM by Mikerman »
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Offline rdtyphn

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #148 on: July 24, 2006, 08:45:50 PM »
I spend most of the time just looking at the wps.  It feels like the main screen for me as well.  Choosing a song, changing options, etc, to me it feels like it should all go back to the WPS afterwards.
Thank you for the updated patch!
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
« Reply #149 on: July 24, 2006, 08:46:36 PM »
Your primary reasoning for liking the patch seems to be "My preconception is that the WPS is the base screen, and so should be where I return to."

Now I ask you: If it's Rockbox's goal to be a player in which it is NOT the base screen, why is this patch a good idea? Assume for the moment that this is not a debate over what should be the base screen, but rather just what the functionality of the button should be.
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