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Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root

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Mr. Brownstone:
Febs > I agree. My solution is biased towards the H100 and H300. I also agree with the ROCKbox ideology of having similar functionality across all platforms, but I do not agree that functionality should be identical, especially when it compromises the usability of a particular platform.

The only solution I can see in such a case is to cater to each platform individually after deciding on a common-ground of basic functionality. I think it is quite possible for ROCKbox to have such common functionality across all platforms, but still cater to individual devices when needed.

I also like your for "add to current playlist" for the Right button, but that it should be optional. ;D

Febs:
Let's agree to disagree for the time being on whether the usability of the H100 and H300 platforms is compromised ...

I find moving back and forth between the iriver and iPod platforms right now to be very easy.  The core functionality of the navigation of both units is the same, so once you learn how to access features mapped to buttons on the iriver platform that don't exist on the iPod platform.  For example, when I first picked up the iPod, I had to learn that a long press of the PLAY button is equivalent to STOP.  Likewise, I had to learn that the A-B button on the iriver is equivalent to the MENU button on the iPod.  After taking about 10 seconds to learn those buttons, however, navigating Rockbox on the iPod was easy.

If you were to re-map the buttons on the iriver platforms so that basic principles of Rockbox navigation varied from platform to platform, it would compromise the usability of Rockbox for me, for many of the developers, and for anyone who switches from one Rockbox platform to another--and this last category can be expected to grow as Rockbox is ported to more and more platforms.  Moreover, I would expect that there would be significant implications with respect to the complexity and size of the code of the buttons on one plaform did something different than the equivalent button on another platform.

As I indicating in my last post, I agree with many of the design philosophies that you express in your proposal.  For example, the button that invokes the WPS from the File Browser should also invoke it from the menu system.  However, I disagree that you can assign that functionality to a button that doesn't exist on some supported platforms.

saab_rider:
I see that this thread has been dead for a while, but I just found it.

Personally, I use left to exit a folder, and right to enter a folder/select a file.

So using left to go all the way back to the WPS changes the way I navigate.

I would've been happy if Play takes you back to the WPS, but other people have good points regarding how Play and Stop's functions should stay the same no matter where you are.

How about a long press of left to go back to the WPS? this way, you avoid using the record button, the Play/stop can still be used for their original function, and left still goes out of a directory...

I apologise if this has already been suggested, but this thread is 9 pages long!

Febs:
I have definitely seen that suggestion made before.  Just curious though, in what what is this better than having a single press of the Play button invoke the WPS from just about anywhere in Rockbox?

(The reason I am curious is because there is a patch on the patchtracker that gives the Play button the "go to WPS" functionality from just about anywhere, and this patch will likely be committed to CVS as soon as someone tests it on Archos platforms.)

saab_rider:
Hey febs.

Actually that is/was my prefrence as well. That was what I wanted up till I read some of the posts here.

The reason I beleive it wouldn't be a good idea to use play to go back to WPS is to keep it as the play/pause button regardless of your location in Rockbox.

So if you're in the file browser, menu, or playlist, click play pauses playback if you're already playing. Which makes sense to me (even though it wasn't what I oriignaly wanted).

I can live with play going to WPS though. But I don't want to loose left for going up a directory.

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